aoyi Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I personally feel that bm's already lack a lot concerning skills and cd's. So i suggest, wouldn't it be fair and more 'logical' to let a tank class, even though ncsoft doesn't call it a specific tank class, but it is, a shorter cd on hm block? Lets say, tanking yeti, using the hm block would only block like 2 or 3 ice cruxes, fine and well, can iframe the rest, but then again we lose some dps cuz rest of pt that doesn't have that many iframes get frozen, we have to wait 30 seconds!! to be able to use the hmblock again, i feel like it wasn't worth the money and farming i spent on it. It would also contribute to the bm class that IS a tank class, to be able to be more flexible and wanted in dungeons. So, reduce cd on hm block please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arohk Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 there can't be a real tank class if no one has taunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlacik Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 @aoyi The HM block CD is fine. That skill is extremely powerful. It`s longest lasting iframe skill thanks to its timer reset on resist. It shields whole group and it doesn`t make them stop doing what they are doing. You are supposed to plan when do you want to use it not just waste it on first red circle around the boss, everyone has own iframes to avoid those. Reducing the CD of it will simply make it too OP either in PvE or in PvP. @Arohk BM and KFM each have a +150% threat buff they can keep up whole time and a skill that deals +300% extra threat on use (stacks with +150% threat buff). They also have spammable block and they have most iframes. They are clearly designed as tank classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkEj Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Kfm still better holding agro then bm :PP and how do said one my friend bm, -"now alot of BM has Hm block, but *cricket*, they dont know when they need to use it "(c)xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MhysaMhysa Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 By the way, hm block's cd is 45 seconds. The resist cd (resist the effect of other hm block or bd's hm tab) is 30 seconds. Besides protecting the 8ice phase with hm block, you can also use it for pulling the second boss. For Necro, you can shield 3 of the nightmare waves. For lair, well lair is braindead anyways. At Lament, you can use hm block when Iruga summons adds so your party members don't need to worry about getting interrupted while doing their cc's. You can hm block the fire bird's almost one-shot aoe. You can be the party projectile shield for asura by alternating hm block (block first hit normally, then press F), and bladecall X. If you do the first bosses at the same sides, there are also good times for hm block. Cold storage you can protect robot's flashbang if accidents happen. It will be super useful for sundering nexus and basically all dungeons afterwards to the point where parties will actually actively seek out bms with hm blocks. Heck even SSP is great with hm block. Put it up and go ham for a good amount of time. So just go and experiment with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrykerGaming Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Here's one for you. I see the dodge left and right skills (A & D); however, they are available to my BM. Are these skills not available to the BM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Els Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Those skills are not released in any version of the game, afaik. Even if they show up. The same goes for the HM skills that state 'A fabled ...'-smth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoll Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I have better idea, how about we put the HM shield block on the 2nd branch :OOOOO *trap* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Els Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 10 minutes ago, Enoll said: I have better idea, how about we put the HM shield block on the 2nd branch :OOOOO *trap* The deflect branch ? :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckForte Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Sorry BM block is as good as it is you are just incompetent if you like I will prove to you that a BM can use HM block to break out of 9 cruxes. No sweat When I'm playing PvP it gets even more broke If you can guess right, you can use it to avoid unpredictable approach attacks. When you compare it to BD they only got 2 seconds while BM got 3 seconds that resist 3 times that's 9 second! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuzor Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 On 31.5.2016. at 2:46 AM, BuckForte said: Sorry BM block is as good as it is you are just incompetent if you like I will prove to you that a BM can use HM block to break out of 9 cruxes. No sweat When I'm playing PvP it gets even more broke If you can guess right, you can use it to avoid unpredictable approach attacks. When you compare it to BD they only got 2 seconds while BM got 3 seconds that resist 3 times that's 9 second! Actually its 5 seconds and resists 3 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Els Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, Tsuzor said: Actually its 5 seconds and resists 3 times BD Maelstorm F1 is 2secs, unlimited hits, but only on user. BD Maelstorm F2 is 3secs for whole party, unlimited hits. BM HM Block is 5 secs, 3 hits, for whole party, but the 5 secs are refreshed on resist. Don't forget than BD also got Guardiant Tempest that blocks 5 hits for 5 secs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleyvin Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I have a question : How is the branch 1 for HM block ? Is it good ? (the one which need 1400 sucess point + 300 pages.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Els Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 The good thing about branch 1, is that it is not blocked by defense disables but offensive-defense disables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiri Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 After I had bladeful legendary, I feel BM is even more broken when it can reset my HM block cooldown. Ofc you cannot reset the side effect cooldown (the one that prevent you to receive other HM block) but that one has lower cooldown than HM block so that still mean you can use HM block faster than normal. If they decrease the HM block cooldown than it's good for me but if they still keep the same, I have no problem with that cause resist movement skill that BM has right now already good enough for me to dodge all of the attack before HM is up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPunchMan092 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 On 15.6.2016 at 9:37 PM, Wiri said: After I had bladeful legendary, I feel BM is even more broken when it can reset my HM block cooldown. Ofc you cannot reset the side effect cooldown (the one that prevent you to receive other HM block) but that one has lower cooldown than HM block so that still mean you can use HM block faster than normal. If they decrease the HM block cooldown than it's good for me but if they still keep the same, I have no problem with that cause resist movement skill that BM has right now already good enough for me to dodge all of the attack before HM is up again. You are right, we BMs have our really useful resist movement, but keep in mind that BM is also the only class in this game that does not have a resist for x seconds buff on default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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