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On 27 May 2016 at 5:15 PM, DomiSotto said:

When I do queue up, my experience is by far less fun than it used to be 2 months ago when I started.
 

Because I am so bad, and play really sporadically (maybe a couple times a month) the only days I can get any sort of even matches are during the daily challenges events, on all other days I just get obliterated in two moves, despite all the ELO matching. I don't mind being a noob, as long as I am matched against another noob, so we actually have a fight. When I started, the fights were prolonged, and I could see how the difficulty of winning increased progressively, until I reached the ELO where people where consistently stronger than I was and dropped me down, which was fine. I could see how if I tried, I could work myself a little higher. But now it's completely unpredictable and I can literally  get stunned and dead and not resisting for the second round makes it faster, and that's literally in low silver?  I am not sure what this guy is doing in silver at all?!

 

I have had very similar experiences.

Two months ago, I was gold rank aspiring to reach platinum, just about touching the 1800.

Now, despite the feeling I actually improved in technique, I am stuck at 1550 in silver. (O.O)'

I can honestly say that I see that when I lose, I do so deservedly to players that have very quick reactions, good skill answers to my strategy, even good adaption during a triple match. These kinds of opponents I used to face from 1700 up, not in Silver. Two months ago, people I faced in silver did not even know how to time grapple counter - now I face blademasters that tech chase my F and 100 to 0 me after I blow my tab. Hard times.

 

I do not really mind too much because I am lucky enough that if I do drop in rank - to 1500 - I start to face easier opponents again that I can beat. But I can imagine it's horrible for people that are stuck at 1470, because that's a rank you can end up at even if losing 3 times out of 4. :(

 

Still I am itching to reach gold so I can finally convert my beans to soulstones. :P

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as someone who couldn't wait for 50, I started pvping from 45-48. I play a KFM who REALLY needs every single skill point we can get. It is quite difficult fighting ranged classes, especially w/o HM levels but I can say it is possible as I have come out victorious when I don't get anxious. I think that's what motivates me to keep playing tbh.

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TBH I quit the game cause I couldn't effectively level in arena and the bots/hackers got to be too much.

 

If this changes I will prob give it another shot in future.  It's a fun ass game.

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On 01 June 2016 at 11:31 PM, Yashuoa said:

Around which times of the day and week would be best to play arena?
As in, when is it most active?

I feel it's best when 1v1 arena is a daily challenge quest. Sad but true. :(

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i remember vividly at post game level 45, arena was filled everyday. was toxic and lively. honestly, id play with that rather than to see arena so dead. i say this with confidence that even known top players are legitimately gone. i know mosh lurks here and there hoping the game takes a 180, even if ever so slightly turning. 

 

 

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I've quited arena because of anicancel.

 

And some classes are impossible. Like BM or BD, i dont remember, I fight against one and most of the fight was him defending, and not actually using skills for try kill me asap.

 

And doing SSP I stopped enter in rage and broke my keyboard too.

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Well i dont play much cause after latest patch game was unplayable for me(freezes packet loss lag etc)

All this time im trying to find whats the prob and found out that a hop in frankfurt has 75to 95 packet loss.

So im trying to say that many ppl might have this also.

Last couple days i started arena again using wtfast see if i can bypasd that shitty hop in germany but no luck till now.

Also yestetday on gold tag we had like 5 strsight match same enemies lol.

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Revisiting these forums, it doesn't surprise me a thread like this is on the front page.

I mentioned months ago, before I quit mid March (shortly before they added the expansion to level 50), that this game wouldn't see the success it deserves if they don't solve the issues with PvP (mainly about the balance issues and lag, apparently the thread I started back then is to this day the one with the most replies).

- Balance was obviously one of the most important issues; I only got to platinum (~2000 rating) on Assassin/BM yet on my Summoner I was in the top 100 (overall, ~2200 rating) in Europe in the first season. I suppose this got better since they added the new levels and HM book skills.
- Lag was a major factor and I doubt that's been fixed by now.
- Bots were a severe problem in the lower rating brackets and ruined the game for many people and I doubt this has been solved.
- Certain cheats took far too long to deal with.
- Then with the added HM levels they favored people that played the game a lot, leaving the casual PvP'ers at a disadvantage.
- I can imagine HM skills have also lead to the above scenario, if the prices are still as insane as they were for the initial few HM skills.

All in all, as I said, I'm not surprised if arena in this game is at a massive decline. Huge potential, sloppy execution. Damn shame. Perhaps it was destined to fail, the same way Bloodline Champions failed despite being an incredible game, but these issues certainly didn't help avoiding that fate.

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4 hours ago, Michieltjuhh said:

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- Balance was obviously one of the most important issues; I only got to platinum (~2000 rating) on Assassin/BM yet on my Summoner I was in the top 100 (overall, ~2200 rating) in Europe in the first season. I suppose this got better since they added the new levels and HM book skills.
- Lag was a major factor and I doubt that's been fixed by now.
- Bots were a severe problem in the lower rating brackets and ruined the game for many people and I doubt this has been solved.
- Certain cheats took far too long to deal with.
- Then with the added HM levels they favored people that played the game a lot, leaving the casual PvP'ers at a disadvantage.
- I can imagine HM skills have also lead to the above scenario, if the prices are still as insane as they were for the initial few HM skills.

All in all, as I said, I'm not surprised if arena in this game is at a massive decline. Huge potential, sloppy execution. Damn shame. Perhaps it was destined to fail, the same way Bloodline Champions failed despite being an incredible game, but these issues certainly didn't help avoiding that fate.

1. Game is balanced as long as both have their HM skills unlocked and got a high enough HM level to use them. 

2. Lags unfortunately are still there - though I yesterday could play 10 games in a row without a single lag so maybe they fixed smth with the latest patch. 

3. Has been solved - no bots anymore in arena (only in 3vs3 there are some afk bots in the lower rating). 

4. Also solved. 

5. Like I said in order to play balanced arena you need to get your HM skills/levels and yes this costs you a lot of time and work for several classes. 

6. Same as above. 

 

Arena is, at least on EU, still very active - until you play at the highest ranks at least (then you have to downrank to get matches again - this affects only the minority of players though). 

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On 5/19/2016 at 11:09 AM, GodofWrath said:

Also most of silver players are summoners or assassins which means their opponent is either a brain-dead keyboard smash class or constant stealth stupidity.

As an FM:

 

"Brain-dead keyboard smash" heals me to full every 16 seconds. ;) 

 

I get 3 frost orbits --> "Constant stealth stupidity" freezes them in place if they want to attack me ;)

 

I'm sure there are ways to easily counter both of these classes in low ranks on any class -- You just need to learn how to do so. On FM (vs summoner) it's ice C --> V, and (vs assassin) RMB Crit + F. 

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On 6/23/2016 at 3:52 AM, Shiune said:

1. Game is balanced as long as both have their HM skills unlocked and got a high enough HM level to use them. 

Balanced? Lol. I have never seen a video game with less balance than this game.

A summoner can defeat any class except maybe BM with both eyes closed and hands tied up.

Have you heard of any MMO in existence where a SUMMONER is able to have more attack power than a glass cannon + ability to spam stealth + resist 90% of attacks and status effects + an array of knockdowns and stuns? It basically has the advantage of every single archetype in an MMO that ever existed.

This game's PvP has about as much balance as a drunkard on a tightrope.

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21 minutes ago, Melodia said:

Balanced? Lol. I have never seen a video game with less balance than this game.

A summoner can defeat any class except maybe BM with both eyes closed and hands tied up.

Have you heard of any MMO in existence where a SUMMONER is able to have more attack power than a glass cannon + ability to spam stealth + resist 90% of attacks and status effects + an array of knockdowns and stuns? It basically has the advantage of every single archetype in an MMO that ever existed.

This game's PvP has about as much balance as a drunkard on a tightrope.

Sometimes I wonder if you're trolling.

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On 2.7.2016 at 9:18 PM, Melodia said:

Balanced? Lol. I have never seen a video game with less balance than this game.

A summoner can defeat any class except maybe BM with both eyes closed and hands tied up.

Have you heard of any MMO in existence where a SUMMONER is able to have more attack power than a glass cannon + ability to spam stealth + resist 90% of attacks and status effects + an array of knockdowns and stuns? It basically has the advantage of every single archetype in an MMO that ever existed.

This game's PvP has about as much balance as a drunkard on a tightrope.

I beat summoners without any problem as assassin. 

 

Oh and yes i noticed you were trolling. 

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You haven't bump into a day with tons of hack users playing Arena... so when you do bump into them then we like to hear your comments lol... 

 

I know this very well cause i have a RL friend who use hacks and believe me hacks are 100 times better... Why?

 

1. You WONT lose...

2. Your opponent will just give up cause no point VS hack users... 

3. They blink here and there... 

4. BEST OF ALL.. You don't even NEED TO PLAY IT.. The BOT play it for you lol...

 

So it's HUMAN vs BOT reflex aka HUMAN LOSE.

 

This is why NCSOFT have nProtect but it's still practically useless... Why?

 

nProtect come up with updates... they come up with new version of hack.. so it's a on going battle... and people rather pay 5USD a month for a good hack... would you rather lose 100 games and win 1? over 5USD?

 

Well this is why ARENA will die... compare to open PVP...

 

Arena a level 10 can win a lvl50 anyday... My RL friend showed me using Summoner with hack... and I see his level 10 own a lvl50 lol... so that's how lame it is in BnS...

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On 7/2/2016 at 3:39 PM, Gratus said:

Sometimes I wonder if you're trolling.

On 7/4/2016 at 11:46 AM, Shiune said:

I beat summoners without any problem as assassin. 

 

Oh and yes i noticed you were trolling. 

All the people defending the OP classes are obviously just playing those classes themselves because they lack the competence to play other classes.

I.e. summoners and assassins.

Their e-peens are hurt whenever they see someone playing a difficult PvP class complaining about how f*cking ridiculously OP these classes are, because they're afraid NCS might actually listen and BALANCE PVP for a change, so they won't be able to faceroll anymore. Pathetic.

 

How many summoners and assassins do you see in arena compared to other classes? Do you ever see any FM's/destroyers/BD/KFM in the same quantity? I don't f*cking think so. Ever wonder why? Of course these people aren't intelligent enough to know why,

 

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Back to the Topic... ( Stop ranting about ... this Class broken bla bla and that... its a other Problem...)

Main Problems are... the Fps Drops and Ping Lags and the ridiouclse low rewards the Arena offer... this are the Main reason why i stoped bother pvp in Arena...

So what to do is Simple ... but will not happen for Reasons...

 

- Make Arena more Rewarding, Exp are ridioculse low and Gold income via Soulstones alone nonsense...

I also wonder till this Day... why Arena Reward is limited to Soulstones only...while there also could be Stinger ...and most important Moonstones...

WHY MOONSTONES ARE SSP ONLY?! PvP is PvP ... ether be it OWPVP or 1vs1 3vs3 or 6vs6... make them obtainable by all Ways... also for Pve in specific dungeons as a rare Drop ... once in Arena would be Moonstones obtainable ... alot ppl would go there... trust me on that one... i tottaly would !.....

 

- Fix the *cricket* Class Bugs like, example... Sin Bug ... where he cant escape from Cat Grap ... ( i Main a BD ) just an random example out of 100 bugs...

- Fix the *cricket* FPS Drop Bug .. that make ppl automaticly lose and force them to leave Arena and get mad over it...

- Fix that *cricket* Ping... i come from germany... got average 40 ms wich is fine... on all other Games... BUT in Bns i got 150~1000Ping? wtf man... NO ITS NOT MY ISP

 

- Short... fix bugs... give more Rewards...Moonstones for example ... and BANG BOOM BANG... miracle ppl are in Arena again... case closed....

 

PS: maybe if u stop would do those SO CALLED EVENTS..... that make ppl buy 500 *cricket*ing luck based casino boxes instead of doing pvp and real events ... THIS GAME MIGHT NOT BE DEAD... rip ncsoft logic....... have  a nice day...

 

Regards, a Honest Player... with years... of yearsssss of experince... ( not bragging intended just bloody honest and pissed like all u guys... )

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Arena is not dying its dead already. when 60% are bots,10% afk cause thy derank, and some 10% are hackers...we are left with 10% if we are lucky to get a good match. im talking mostly in 3v3. if its like this u better remove the damn thing or do something about it!!!

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On 7/5/2016 at 0:57 AM, Tukiisan said:

 

 

Well this is why ARENA will die... compare to open PVP...

 

Arena a level 10 can win a lvl50 anyday... My RL friend showed me using Summoner with hack... and I see his level 10 own a lvl50 lol... so that's how lame it is in BnS...

I wasnt aware level 10's could join pvp arena?lol how did you manage to see that one?

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I personally became very inactive in the arena nowadays because of the following reasons:

1. Lots of sins at high elo play time-out build. Super boring non-stop 3 minute matches.

2. Very long queue times at high elo. Not worth waiting in queue for 5 - 10 minutes to just get a time-out sin.

 

The play-style and toxic attitude of Sins honestly ruined arena for me and is the reason why I don't queue as much anymore. 

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