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Yeah the bots are getting old, worse still are the players speedhacking in SSP, at first i thought they were all bots, till i got bombed by one, the same one, three times in a row, within 4 seconds.

So i whisper him and he responds "They wont do anything", reported character, sent in ticket with account name and everything, 3 weeks later hes still doing it.

 

As much as i love BnS with arena swarmed with them and now another major feature of the game ruined by them im starting to look elsewhere with my money.

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47 minutes ago, Capprice said:

I cannot understand how they are so many.

How come Tera doesn't have this problem. It doesn't even have gameguard.

First of all GG does nothing so it has nothing to do with anything.

Second of all Tera is dead game. Theres bots and theres some players yeah sure but that does not mean theres profit to made. Tera had bots when it was new and there was profit to made. Majority of botters do it for profit. Grind gold sell gold to goldsellers / players

Thirdly did i already mention that GG is most useless anticheat program ever it does not prevent anything. Or well actualy it might ban players who are completely clueless about anything and use CE or something but any decent bot / cheat goes around GG which makes GG completely useless

 

To anyone who thinks Ncsoft is not doing anything.

 

1. Seriously start thinking about situation instead of crying over this.

2. Ncsoft or any other game company is powerless against bots that alone because they try to create automated system that would detect bots which is always huge failure

3. Botting in BnS is simple/cheap and Ncsoft will never be able to beat them because amount of resources they would need is astronomical. Once 1 bot is banned 2 more pops in and repeat so Ncsoft will be always few steps behind

3.Also Ncsoft is doing same thing as other game companies which is frequently banwave botters/goldsellers. There is no such game company which would do banwave everyweek because of cost. THERES BEEN THREE (3) BANWAVES (just put this in caps so you as reader would pay attention to it) in this game so that alone means theres banwaves every month or so which is almost same as in any other game

4. None of you who cry about this issue has NEVER provided good idea or solution for it because theres only 1 good option which simply cost too much.

5. Best solution is to have like 20-30 support ban team that goes realm/server by realm/server looking for bots but that would cost way too much. Even blizzard does not have this kind of team. Humans are best solution for botting problem but at the same time they're worst because it costs too much.

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as a person i have good taste of humor...i may even understand that bots have their purpose of existence...

bad...today in misty wood... i was doing my pvp dailies.....and i come across a summoner bot...

when i went agressive on it...it started to response to my hits by hitting me back...

with the only difference that it was all the time in hide...every time that it was using sunflower...get itself to hide...

and here were the story ends and the joke in the same time..because my char has stats like 520 ap and 4k crit..lvl 50

and i almost got killed by a bot with 200 ap 700 crit lvl 47... i can handle with loosing from a player with lower stats of mine and more skilled..

i cant stand loosing from a bot with low gear,lower level because it uses hack...

its seems to me that i dont have reasons to try anymore...upgrading my char...or even playing this game

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1 hour ago, Hatsunya said:

 

5. Best solution is to have like 20-30 support ban team that goes realm/server by realm/server looking for bots but that would cost way too much. Even blizzard does not have this kind of team. Humans are best solution for botting problem but at the same time they're worst because it costs too much.

They don't have to look very far pretty sure the player base has submitted plenty of tickets with video evidence already. Unless the process of banning an account takes a long time I don't see any reason why the support team can't have handed in the names to the admin team and got the accounts banned already. As some people have stated they reported these bots for a few weeks now nothing has been done. May be the process of banning an account is much more complicated than we thought ;)

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1 hour ago, Hatsunya said:

F4. None of you who cry about this issue has NEVER provided good idea or solution for it because theres only 1 good option which simply cost too much.

5. Best solution is to have like 20-30 support ban team that goes realm/server by realm/server looking for bots but that would cost way too much. Even blizzard does not have this kind of team. Humans are best solution for botting problem but at the same time they're worst because it costs too much.

WoW cut their CS and GM teams by a crazy amount when Activision came on the scene. This billion dollar corporation made the decision to do things on the cheap out of greed and hubris. Before that bots and hackers were a minimal problem, even in a game that hosted millions of players. Current WoW is a souless shell of what it once was and Blizzard is beyond caring since Hearthstone rakes in millions more. At one time anyone who had a high ranking arena title was respected and looked up to. Now the entire PvP system is a joke and they're dismissed as probable hackers. The automated ban wave system doesn't work. It just doesn't.  And if one needs proof of this fact they need look no further than the sad, dethroned king of MMO's that is WoW.

 

NCSOFT is not a poor, struggling business. They can afford to solve this problem - they just choose not to. BnS for them is a cash grab that will eventually implode on itself. This is exactly how they intend for this to work.

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1 hour ago, Hatsunya said:

First of all GG does nothing so it has nothing to do with anything.

Second of all Tera is dead game. Theres bots and theres some players yeah sure but that does not mean theres profit to made. Tera had bots when it was new and there was profit to made. Majority of botters do it for profit. Grind gold sell gold to goldsellers / players

Thirdly did i already mention that GG is most useless anticheat program ever it does not prevent anything. Or well actualy it might ban players who are completely clueless about anything and use CE or something but any decent bot / cheat goes around GG which makes GG completely useless

 

To anyone who thinks Ncsoft is not doing anything.

 

1. Seriously start thinking about situation instead of crying over this.

2. Ncsoft or any other game company is powerless against bots that alone because they try to create automated system that would detect bots which is always huge failure

3. Botting in BnS is simple/cheap and Ncsoft will never be able to beat them because amount of resources they would need is astronomical. Once 1 bot is banned 2 more pops in and repeat so Ncsoft will be always few steps behind

3.Also Ncsoft is doing same thing as other game companies which is frequently banwave botters/goldsellers. There is no such game company which would do banwave everyweek because of cost. THERES BEEN THREE (3) BANWAVES (just put this in caps so you as reader would pay attention to it) in this game so that alone means theres banwaves every month or so which is almost same as in any other game

4. None of you who cry about this issue has NEVER provided good idea or solution for it because theres only 1 good option which simply cost too much.

5. Best solution is to have like 20-30 support ban team that goes realm/server by realm/server looking for bots but that would cost way too much. Even blizzard does not have this kind of team. Humans are best solution for botting problem but at the same time they're worst because it costs too much.

On my Server , ppl start Speedhack on SSP, now we have bots that speedhack  for farm. 

For weeks i send ticket and report with the name of player  and use ingame report for bots .

The problem is that NCsoft do nothing at all . They never ban hackers .. So ppl start so think "Oh it's not dangerous to use hack" then they hack /bot then number of bot/hack increase . It's just a *cricket*ing deadcircle of bot/hack due to NCsoft slacking.

 

Just think about it. With real fear of being banned when use hack or bot , a lot of ppl will stop doing it. For the real goldseller compagny it's another problem , but it still help to ban the bot before they arrive level max and farm. The fact is with regular banwaves the "Botters" will have difficulties to earn gold , i mean more difficulties . If they do this , it will harder for them to make money , not this hard , but a bit more . Plus we have 0 communication from ncsoft, plus it's totaly bullshit that when you change Email , confirmation link are send to the new email it's like : Hey hack my MDP , i have 0 other security .

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actually someone found a good way to deal with bots by removing stats by non-upgradable equipments.

 

i suggest to put some higher requirement for higher parts of the maps.

so bots are forced to upgrade weapons.

 

then put a banhammer team in game which instaban bots.

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Lobby going into and out of Blackram Narrows and The Tomb of the Exiles, OMG the amount of spammers!  Also, certain repeatable dungeons, like the Playpen, there seems too be a revolving door of at least 30 bots.  I just sit there and keep clicking the Report Bot and see them reappear later.  Does NC Soft actually DO anything to bot players?  I mean, like actually ban the IP ADDRESS as well as the account?  Let them know what you think, fellow players!

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2 hours ago, Fennalie said:

They don't have to look very far pretty sure the player base has submitted plenty of tickets with video evidence already. Unless the process of banning an account takes a long time I don't see any reason why the support team can't have handed in the names to the admin team and got the accounts banned already. As some people have stated they reported these bots for a few weeks now nothing has been done. May be the process of banning an account is much more complicated than we thought ;)

Actually it does take time they need to confirm the evidence by themselves and many many many players take just screenshots about botters which does not actually help at all. Screenshot is worst kind of evidence about bots otherhand video material is better one but it still requires support specialist to investigate and confirm evidence. Imagine now 1000 players making support tickets and submiting videos/screenshots and lets say they have 10 customer support specialist on top of that they have other tickets to handle so the workload is huge.

 

Thats why having specific team to go for bots. They can pretty much skip step where they need to confirm evidence / directly see by themselves that its bot. But well its expensive for companies to do.

 

Tho i have no clue how huge their customer support is. :p

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3 hours ago, VirtueXOA said:

On my Server , ppl start Speedhack on SSP, now we have bots that speedhack  for farm. 

For weeks i send ticket and report with the name of player  and use ingame report for bots .

The problem is that NCsoft do nothing at all . They never ban hackers .. So ppl start so think "Oh it's not dangerous to use hack" then they hack /bot then number of bot/hack increase . It's just a *cricket*ing deadcircle of bot/hack due to NCsoft slacking.

 

Just think about it. With real fear of being banned when use hack or bot , a lot of ppl will stop doing it. For the real goldseller compagny it's another problem , but it still help to ban the bot before they arrive level max and farm. The fact is with regular banwaves the "Botters" will have difficulties to earn gold , i mean more difficulties . If they do this , it will harder for them to make money , not this hard , but a bit more . Plus we have 0 communication from ncsoft, plus it's totaly bullshit that when you change Email , confirmation link are send to the new email it's like : Hey hack my MDP , i have 0 other security .

Again if you read my post you might understand. Ncsoft or any other company wont just throw banwaves each week. We already had THREE (3) banwaves so about 1 in month.

 

Do you seriously think just because you or any other player reported someone for botting is enough to ban them? Nope definetely nope. CS has to confirm it by themselves that someone was botting and if you expect them to throw banwaves each week then you're wrong. They dont have resources to do so which is fact with any gaming company.

 

Also even if they banned all bots in SSP with speedhack / TPhack or any other hack they would just make new account and do it again and if they realise they will get instantly banned they will move to do other things.

 

This is my opinion only but if player is botting and does it in public places he is worst kind of idiot. Pure stupidity to break rules and do it publicly. "hi guys im here pls report me"

 

They will get banned eventually. One thing Ncsoft could do is the same thing as Square Enix does. When ever theres banwave they publicly tell players "hey there was banwave"

This many accounts were permanently banned for botting /RMT and so on. This would shut ppls mouth about Ncsoft not doing anything. They most certainly is doing thing but you guys dont seem to understand fact that Ncsoft is never able to win war against bots. Its sad truth. Amount of resources needed to do so is ridiculous and they're company that needs profits so they cant actually do it. Continuing and complaining it every week with new threads and threatening to leave and other garbage does not help anyone.

 

Im still enjoying game while i see bots i laugh at them and do funny stuff to them. If i see opposite faction bot ill just kill it for while. I've been killed multiple times by speedhack in SSP when i had 200-300 prestige which annoyed me but do you see me here crying and making threads about issue which they sadly cant  win? Nope i've accepted them and they will be there and you or me cant do anything about it but continue playing and press report button or have fun with bots (killing them, throwin bombs to meteor routes) and so on.

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