Blade Master Vs other classes

[Maeyamada]

I made this post in the wrong section so moving it here. Currently when I play other classes I feel like this. When I lose to a KFM it's because I got outplayed. When I lose to a FM it's because I got outplayed. When I lose to a WL it's because I got outplayed. Other Blade Masters is the same as well. When I lose to a LMB, even though they have a ton of resists, I can still say I got outplayed. Destroyers? If they use red buff they're not to hard to beat, but blue buff and stupid ember stomp makes it a long battle. Why wasn't ember stomp 500g when it came out... Now time for the real complaints. Stupid assassins and summoners. 

 

First off assassins. I can forgive the overpowered amount of stuns they have on short cool downs. I can forgive the retarded amount of stealth time they get. I can even give forgive the stupid flower they get that they don't need. What I can't forgive is how they can stun me from what seems like 10 meters away. They go into stealth and put down that dumb flower at the start so I have to wait for them to come to me. Just when I see their character model get into range I press 3 and it misses, but I get stunned right after that. Makes absolutely no sense. How much skill does it take to use back stab and spam a stun? None at all. They need longer cool downs on their stuns since you cannot get out of it without using tabs. 

 

Next is summoner. Whats wrong with their skills? Everything, NCsoft please delete this class. Grapple, heals you name it. Forget running flock of blades because if you do it turns into a battle of attrition which you will ALWAYS lose. You have to use blade call to either kill the cat, or make them use all their escapes and kill them that way. I don't even get the chance to attack at the start cause they just spam cat stun and grab. Forces me to use the parry block. 

 

In short, BM is the weakest. I'll wait for HM Z to see if anything changes, but as of right now i can only make one or 2 mistakes in a match before I lose while other people can make about 4 or 5 before I can be guaranteed a win.  

[azraelkun]

 Hi mate u complain about sin cc short cds that only way for u to escape is tab well as bm u have a lot of cc right? I dont get why u complain.

Blade masters arent weak since 50 lvl cap u just need to learn better

[Valiant]

5 hours ago, Maeyamada said:

I made this post in the wrong section so moving it here. Currently when I play other classes I feel like this. When I lose to a KFM it's because I got outplayed. When I lose to a FM it's because I got outplayed. When I lose to a WL it's because I got outplayed. Other Blade Masters is the same as well. When I lose to a LMB, even though they have a ton of resists, I can still say I got outplayed. Destroyers? If they use red buff they're not to hard to beat, but blue buff and stupid ember stomp makes it a long battle. Why wasn't ember stomp 500g when it came out... Now time for the real complaints. Stupid assassins and summoners. 

 

First off assassins. I can forgive the overpowered amount of stuns they have on short cool downs. I can forgive the retarded amount of stealth time they get. I can even give forgive the stupid flower they get that they don't need. What I can't forgive is how they can stun me from what seems like 10 meters away. They go into stealth and put down that dumb flower at the start so I have to wait for them to come to me. Just when I see their character model get into range I press 3 and it misses, but I get stunned right after that. Makes absolutely no sense. How much skill does it take to use back stab and spam a stun? None at all. They need longer cool downs on their stuns since you cannot get out of it without using tabs. 

 

Next is summoner. Whats wrong with their skills? Everything, NCsoft please delete this class. Grapple, heals you name it. Forget running flock of blades because if you do it turns into a battle of attrition which you will ALWAYS lose. You have to use blade call to either kill the cat, or make them use all their escapes and kill them that way. I don't even get the chance to attack at the start cause they just spam cat stun and grab. Forces me to use the parry block. 

 

In short, BM is the weakest. I'll wait for HM Z to see if anything changes, but as of right now i can only make one or 2 mistakes in a match before I lose while other people can make about 4 or 5 before I can be guaranteed a win.  

First, Please don't even say anything about destroyer because your class is the easy counter for destroyer even with Blue buff and emberstomp
You got tons of CC ability and knockdown to put down destroyer and *cricket* him easily even with blue buff, Blue  buff is even a *cricket*ing 1min cooldown and you able to resist and block destroyer skills easily since destroyer can't mobility easily like other classes to back stab you so yah.

Don't even cry about destroyer special that you going to get more powerful by HM skills while destroyer will stay at it place,
 

Now don\t worry aswell once BM get his full skill build, you will eat Assassin and summoner on dinner.

Check korean and china version , BM already top ranked their because they pretty much the only balanced class out there

[Farrangis]

6 hours ago, Maeyamada said:

I made this post in the wrong section so moving it here. Currently when I play other classes I feel like this. When I lose to a KFM it's because I got outplayed. When I lose to a FM it's because I got outplayed. When I lose to a WL it's because I got outplayed. Other Blade Masters is the same as well. When I lose to a LMB, even though they have a ton of resists, I can still say I got outplayed. Destroyers? If they use red buff they're not to hard to beat, but blue buff and stupid ember stomp makes it a long battle. Why wasn't ember stomp 500g when it came out... Now time for the real complaints. Stupid assassins and summoners. 

 

First off assassins. I can forgive the overpowered amount of stuns they have on short cool downs. I can forgive the retarded amount of stealth time they get. I can even give forgive the stupid flower they get that they don't need. What I can't forgive is how they can stun me from what seems like 10 meters away. They go into stealth and put down that dumb flower at the start so I have to wait for them to come to me. Just when I see their character model get into range I press 3 and it misses, but I get stunned right after that. Makes absolutely no sense. How much skill does it take to use back stab and spam a stun? None at all. They need longer cool downs on their stuns since you cannot get out of it without using tabs. 

 

Next is summoner. Whats wrong with their skills? Everything, NCsoft please delete this class. Grapple, heals you name it. Forget running flock of blades because if you do it turns into a battle of attrition which you will ALWAYS lose. You have to use blade call to either kill the cat, or make them use all their escapes and kill them that way. I don't even get the chance to attack at the start cause they just spam cat stun and grab. Forces me to use the parry block. 

 

In short, BM is the weakest. I'll wait for HM Z to see if anything changes, but as of right now i can only make one or 2 mistakes in a match before I lose while other people can make about 4 or 5 before I can be guaranteed a win.  

For assassin, when they do the animation where they suddenly go poof and appear right on top of you and slam down to stun you with a flash bang. You have 3 options:

1. Your 3 Ankle

2. Your tab daze (not tab esc)

3. Your V Flock of blades

 

You probably already knew all of this since you mentioned you try to use 3. However, 3 is hard to pull off when you dont get used to the timing. So use either tab daze or V. Personally, I use V, it works perfectly all the time. This is my combo after using V and knocking the sin out. I immediately C Lightning rod Dazes -> V (for chi regain) -> 2 (rush) -> 4 (lightning draw HM Stage 1 tier 5) -> Q and E ( go back to E is optional). Most sin will tab out right away after you draw your lightning draw skill, the reason why you need to Q is because you don't want to get the flash bang when they tab. This little combo alone can already take out 15k if crit HM Lightning Draw. If not crit, it's ok because sin waste their tab. After they waste their tab, it's easy. Just go ham and make sure "DO NOT" hit into their counter. If they dont tab and youre still in your draw stance, go ham with 2 RB -> 2 (extended) ->E -> normal attack to regain chi -> F-> air combo. It's really just situational.

 

I highly recommend buying HM block. It tremendously help against sin once you waste your tab esc. Let's say you get hit with flash bang tab esc from sin. You can go immediately block and use Wing Protector, it's an ass saver. 

 

HM Z pull will definitely put BM at the shining spot for sure. Most classes will tab if they are pull because who would stand there to get hit with 10% AP boost + 3 stuns lol.

 

For summoner, don't even talk about it haha

[xCandyBear]

6 hours ago, Maeyamada said:

I made this post in the wrong section so moving it here. Currently when I play other classes I feel like this. When I lose to a KFM it's because I got outplayed. When I lose to a FM it's because I got outplayed. When I lose to a WL it's because I got outplayed. Other Blade Masters is the same as well. When I lose to a LMB, even though they have a ton of resists, I can still say I got outplayed. Destroyers? If they use red buff they're not to hard to beat, but blue buff and stupid ember stomp makes it a long battle. Why wasn't ember stomp 500g when it came out... Now time for the real complaints. Stupid assassins and summoners. 

 

First off assassins. I can forgive the overpowered amount of stuns they have on short cool downs. I can forgive the retarded amount of stealth time they get. I can even give forgive the stupid flower they get that they don't need. What I can't forgive is how they can stun me from what seems like 10 meters away. They go into stealth and put down that dumb flower at the start so I have to wait for them to come to me. Just when I see their character model get into range I press 3 and it misses, but I get stunned right after that. Makes absolutely no sense. How much skill does it take to use back stab and spam a stun? None at all. They need longer cool downs on their stuns since you cannot get out of it without using tabs. 

 

Next is summoner. Whats wrong with their skills? Everything, NCsoft please delete this class. Grapple, heals you name it. Forget running flock of blades because if you do it turns into a battle of attrition which you will ALWAYS lose. You have to use blade call to either kill the cat, or make them use all their escapes and kill them that way. I don't even get the chance to attack at the start cause they just spam cat stun and grab. Forces me to use the parry block. 

 

In short, BM is the weakest. I'll wait for HM Z to see if anything changes, but as of right now i can only make one or 2 mistakes in a match before I lose while other people can make about 4 or 5 before I can be guaranteed a win.  

It seems to me you didn't learn to play BM yet go practice more watch some videos read some guides will help you, you can only feel weak when others start to kick you from parties even without knowing if you're good or bad player that shows when a class is weak to me, and sins get a lot of that.

PVP is all about outplay you need a brain combined with your skills and also a good ping/fps but ofc for some classes is more easy than others you need to find your playstyle.

[azraelkun]

The truth is that bm is the only class currently that getting stronger hongmoon lvls wise all other classes stay the same.

Sin will have a bit boost in counter when he goes hlvl 10 with decoy legendary that will help with bm n lbm 5 point strike

[Neonian]

ITT: "I don't get the class, therefore nerf it"

[Maeyamada]

I know how to play my class very well believe it or not. I already know all the strategies to beat other classes, it's just doing it requires far more effort and level of ability than the others. BM is harder than any other class, the only other that takes real skill to be good at is FM. In 3v3 when the going gets tough I can't just press one button like a FM or BD and avoid all the damage, use ember stomp and shield, or hide forever like a sin or summoner. The only other class that's starting to fall down the totem pole with us is KFM. 

[Valiant]

3 hours ago, Maeyamada said:

I know how to play my class very well believe it or not. I already know all the strategies to beat other classes, it's just doing it requires far more effort and level of ability than the others. BM is harder than any other class, the only other that takes real skill to be good at is FM. In 3v3 when the going gets tough I can't just press one button like a FM or BD and avoid all the damage, use ember stomp and shield, or hide forever like a sin or summoner. The only other class that's starting to fall down the totem pole with us is KFM. 

You a really making me cry now, Emberstomp can be broken by pull or Knockup and shield please that shield any skill that backstab or Break defense will break it

[Maeyamada]

1 hour ago, Valiant said:

You a really making me cry now, Emberstomp can be broken by pull or Knockup and shield please that shield any skill that backstab or Break defense will break it

So tell me pro what knock up does a BM have if the opponent isn't CC'ed? Did you know if u zpull and try to cc right after it doesn't work? You have to wait until the animation is over which they can spin back into ember stomp. Learn my skills before you tell me how to play. 

[mgl]

I wish they deleted BM and KFM.

Signed, FM. 

 

See how stupid that sounds? Just be glad you have a free win in FMs and some other classes. 

[Valiant]

7 hours ago, Maeyamada said:

So tell me pro what knock up does a BM have if the opponent isn't CC'ed? Did you know if u zpull and try to cc right after it doesn't work? You have to wait until the animation is over which they can spin back into ember stomp. Learn my skills before you tell me how to play. 

Trust me, All BM do pull me and stun me direct after it before I able to do anything,.
It seem like you do have a lag problem that you couldn't do it right then