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6 minutes ago, Fragnance said:

What should i want to upgrade the next thing? weapon or accessories? i'm currently at true pirate weapon, true siren accessories and awaken oathbreaker belt.

Consider your current stats and the benefit you'll get from upgrading versus the cost. Also consider getting a good soulshield w/fuse.

Calculate your damage change by a formula: AP*(crit*(critdamage-100%))*(MIN(piercing, 10%)+90%)

i.e.

for 500 ap, 40% crit, 190% crit damage, 9% piercing:

500*(0.4*(1.9-1)) * (MIN(0.09, 0.1)+0.9) = 500* (0.4*0.9) * 0.99 = 178.2

 

for 450 ap, 60% crit, 200% crit damage, 12% piercing:

450*(0.6*(2-1)) * (MIN(0.12, 0.1)+0.9) = 450*(0.6*1)*1 = 270

 

 

(Notice how the second result completely obliterates the first one despite lower AP.)

 

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4 minutes ago, Fragnance said:

Don't have the time to calculate, just want to know which one should i upgrade first lol. Simple

ಠ_ಠ I thought I explained why it's not as simple and needs to consider your current stats and soulshi---

 

--Nevermind. *rolls dice*

 

Upgrade ring.

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40 minutes ago, Enhance said:

Calculate your damage change by a formula: AP*(crit*(critdamage-100%))*(MIN(piercing, 10%)+90%)

i.e.

for 500 ap, 40% crit, 190% crit damage, 9% piercing:

500*(0.4*(1.9-1)) * (MIN(0.09, 0.1)+0.9) = 500* (0.4*0.9) * 0.99 = 178.2

 

for 450 ap, 60% crit, 200% crit damage, 12% piercing:

450*(0.6*(2-1)) * (MIN(0.12, 0.1)+0.9) = 450*(0.6*1)*1 = 270

Thank you! This is very useful (for those that are not idiots, that is)

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33 minutes ago, Enhance said:

Consider your current stats and the benefit you'll get from upgrading versus the cost. Also consider getting a good soulshield w/fuse.

Calculate your damage change by a formula: AP*(crit*(critdamage-100%))*(MIN(piercing, 10%)+90%)

i.e.

for 500 ap, 40% crit, 190% crit damage, 9% piercing:

500*(0.4*(1.9-1)) * (MIN(0.09, 0.1)+0.9) = 500* (0.4*0.9) * 0.99 = 178.2

 

for 450 ap, 60% crit, 200% crit damage, 12% piercing:

450*(0.6*(2-1)) * (MIN(0.12, 0.1)+0.9) = 450*(0.6*1)*1 = 270

 

 

(Notice how the second result completely obliterates the first one despite lower AP.)

 

i'm also very grateful for this. but what i would like to know: there are two piercing stats on my char sheet. one for defence piercing and one for block piercing. for the calculation do i simply take the decimal sum of both or is only one used?

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3 minutes ago, Royo May said:

i'm also very grateful for this. but what i would like to know: there are two piercing stats on my char sheet. one for defence piercing and one for block piercing. for the calculation do i simply take the decimal sum of both or is only one used?

Use defense piercing in the calculations, block piercing is against mobs/people when they trigger the autoblock (like ones with shields, I believe).

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6 minutes ago, Royo May said:

i'm also very grateful for this. but what i would like to know: there are two piercing stats on my char sheet. one for defence piercing and one for block piercing. for the calculation do i simply take the decimal sum of both or is only one used?

Block Piercing means how much of the Block stat of the target you ignore. You should naturally be over the cap for PvE.

In other words, it doesn't matter

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17 minutes ago, Fragnance said:

Don't have the time to calculate, just want to know which one should i upgrade first lol. Simple

See this is your problem....

 

If your AP and crit sux then upgrade bracelet as it will boost your AP and crit.

If you want to boost a bit your crit damage and some crit do ring

Crit damage and some ap do earring.

 

Looks what works best for you.

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1 hour ago, Enhance said:

Consider your current stats and the benefit you'll get from upgrading versus the cost. Also consider getting a good soulshield w/fuse.

Calculate your damage change by a formula: AP*(crit*(critdamage-100%))*(MIN(piercing, 10%)+90%)

i.e.

for 500 ap, 40% crit, 190% crit damage, 9% piercing:

500*(0.4*(1.9-1)) * (MIN(0.09, 0.1)+0.9) = 500* (0.4*0.9) * 0.99 = 178.2

 

for 450 ap, 60% crit, 200% crit damage, 12% piercing:

450*(0.6*(2-1)) * (MIN(0.12, 0.1)+0.9) = 450*(0.6*1)*1 = 270

 

 

(Notice how the second result completely obliterates the first one despite lower AP.)

 

Since when a video game became rocket science? Really, do you do this?

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9 minutes ago, Fraou said:

Since when a video game became rocket science? Really, do you do this?

It's not rocket science, it's common sense and grade-school level math. Not to mention you're playing a game on a huge calculator and have a calculator in that calculator, making this calculation easy for any 10-year old.

 

Yes, I do this. When I have to consider a costly upgrade to Awakened Oathbreaker Bracelet, while I have a crit damage Breeze bracelet on, I inevitably have to ask "Is it worth it?" - and I answer my doubts with a 30-second calculation instead of jumping on a bandwagon of "everyone's doing it, so it must be best".

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3 hours ago, Enhance said:

Consider your current stats and the benefit you'll get from upgrading versus the cost. Also consider getting a good soulshield w/fuse.

Calculate your damage change by a formula: AP*(crit*(critdamage-100%))*(MIN(piercing, 10%)+90%)

i.e.

for 500 ap, 40% crit, 190% crit damage, 9% piercing:

500*(0.4*(1.9-1)) * (MIN(0.09, 0.1)+0.9) = 500* (0.4*0.9) * 0.99 = 178.2

for 450 ap, 60% crit, 200% crit damage, 12% piercing:

450*(0.6*(2-1)) * (MIN(0.12, 0.1)+0.9) = 450*(0.6*1)*1 = 270

(Notice how the second result completely obliterates the first one despite lower AP.)

 

Thanks!

I hope those folks keep spamming their 500+ AP for party then crying about their shitty dps or "I can't get credit for my quest in Square events and I have 500+ AP" should read this post and learn how to play their classes,  while I have much lower AP and getting quest credit every damn time. Thanks again!

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On 8/4/2016 at 2:24 PM, Enhance said:

Calculate your damage change by a formula: AP*(crit*(critdamage-100%))*(MIN(piercing, 10%)+90%)

i.e.

for 500 ap, 40% crit, 190% crit damage, 9% piercing:

500*(0.4*(1.9-1)) * (MIN(0.09, 0.1)+0.9) = 500* (0.4*0.9) * 0.99 = 178.2

for 450 ap, 60% crit, 200% crit damage, 12% piercing:

450*(0.6*(2-1)) * (MIN(0.12, 0.1)+0.9) = 450*(0.6*1)*1 = 270

 

(Notice how the second result completely obliterates the first one despite lower AP.)

Hi Enhance,

 

thanks for the formula, I like it when I can have the real weight of my stats. But I have one question though :

 

Shouldn't the Accuracy be taking part of the formula ?

 

Hope you'll come around here and can answer me :)

 

Edit : I think I answered myself. Actually, there is no accuracy stats on weapons & accessories right ??

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