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Enhance   
2 minutes ago, Tomoko said:

i haven't cropped them yet. nor did i get around to putting them in profile yet.

 

I understand your point that they might've westernized the game more than you'd like, but denying .gifs has as little to do with anime hating as elderly midgets with NBA.

 

You may not be able to put the animated avatar you wanted on your profile - (if, of course, they do deny animated avatars, they just said "inappropriate formats" which could be anything) - you'll live. At least as far as I'm concerned the game is about martial arts, fighting and stuff , rather than gifs in profiles.

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PCComet   
8 minutes ago, Tomoko said:

=(

i had so many .gifs ready......

NN1x7jy.gifylJmR5P.gif

fiRTi94.gif8fUoUCP.gifse3lwmG.gifqvVfQ4B.gif

 

 

 

 

 

ever get the feeling NCsoft NA hates anime?

i mean...they butchered the story.

and now they blocking us from putting these in our profile....

 

kinda makes u want to question their logic in choosing an ANIME THEMED GAME.

 

 

wonder if they've seen Phantasy Star Online 2 and its in game clip art system.

that thing has anime gif/picture galore. and its glorious.

 

i guess one thing they want to prevent is getting slammed with a lawsuit. There's been many issues in several games where players upload someone else naked pictures or some type of inappropriate picture. It just takes one person to do it to ruin it for everyone else. I feel like something similar to this happened recently because its been nearly a month and they bring it up now.

 

13 hours ago, DosonTheGreat said:

This is absolutely pathetic. They are wasting resources on this when they should be focusing on getting rid of the damn bots. Why? WHY? Are they afraid someone is going to be offended by some imagery? The MOST offensive things in this game are the godawful translation and all the bots running rampant. The skills trees are hard to understand with the broken english and inconsistent naming of the skills. Then you have bots almost completely destroying arena and blue dungeons and they wanna TAKE AWAY features? Are you kidding me?

It's not as easy as to simply ban bots in a free to play game. They can keep on coming with a new account, i'm sure that they're working on something long term because it's hurting they're pockets more. Remember this is a business to them and a game to us. They won't always hear what we want because it may not fall into their pocket. But since these bots are taking potentially some of their income that comes out from the game, they have to be working on a long term solution for them

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Tomoko   
1 minute ago, PCComet said:

i guess one thing they want to prevent is getting slammed with a lawsuit. There's been many issues in several games where players upload someone else naked pictures or some type of inappropriate picture. It just takes one person to do it to ruin it for everyone else. I feel like something similar to this happened recently because its been nearly a month and they bring it up now.

ah

Feel a bit more sad now that i know i'm being punished for someone else's actions =(

 

specially since they could simply redirect the lawsuit to the owner of the offending picture.  and ban their account after forwarding the lawsuit.

 

 

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PCComet   
Just now, Tomoko said:

ah

Feel a bit more sad now that i know i'm being punished for someone else's actions =(

 

specially since they could simply redirect the lawsuit to the owner of the offending picture.  and ban their account after forwarding the lawsuit.

doesn't work like that, because since it was posted on a game that they're hosting. They have to be held responsible as well for what players post, so they are within their right to control what gets uploaded and what doesn't. 

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Enhance   
1 minute ago, Tomoko said:

ah

Feel a bit more sad now that i know i'm being punished for someone else's actions =(

specially since they could simply redirect the lawsuit to the owner of the offending picture.  and ban their account after forwarding the lawsuit.

Where did this notion of "They disabled picture uploads because there were tits in it"? 

To quote the announcement:

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Greetings,

 In order to prevent unintended file formats uploaded to the character profile system, the image uploader feature has been suspended and images with the incorrect formats will be deleted.

The character profile image feature will undergo changes to its system, we will be sure to share more details about this new system when they are available.

 If at all during your adventures in Blade & Soul you discover an inappropriate image within a player’s character profile, please submit a ticket to Customer Support and they will be able to take the look into the issue further: https://support.bladeandsoul.com/hc/en-us

 We appreciate your patience while we make these changes,

Team Blade & Soul  

File format is not the file content. What I took from it was that the system was likely being exploited to upload unintended non-image files, which could lead to instability and errors on loading profiles whatnot (and was likely the reason they took it down outside of maintenance schedule). I'm 99.9% sure they knew that you could upload gifs for a long time, yet they took an emergency out-of-schedule action to stop the upload flood and fix the system now. I don't see how it's related to "inappropriate imagery".

 

As for the announcement to report people with inappropriate avatars, it seems like a casual heads-up.

 

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Enhance   
Just now, Tomoko said:

why PSO2 didn't have this problem....or BnS JP/KR.   and yet NA does....is it an American copyright thing again?

Copyright has nothing to do with exploiting server vulnerabilities. I believe they wrote their own character info endpoints for NA (albeit koreans wrote them and left korean comments), and those came with a few bonus loopholes that are now being fixed.

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Tomoko   
9 minutes ago, Enhance said:

Where did this notion of "They disabled picture uploads because there were tits in it"? 

To quote the announcement:

File format is not the file content. What I took from it was that the system was likely being exploited to upload unintended non-image files, which could lead to instability and errors on loading profiles whatnot (and was likely the reason they took it down outside of maintenance schedule). I'm 99.9% sure they knew that you could upload gifs for a long time, yet they took an emergency out-of-schedule action to stop the upload flood and fix the system now. I don't see how it's related to "inappropriate imagery".

 

As for the announcement to report people with inappropriate avatars, it seems like a casual heads-up.

 

=(

 

don't get why PSO2 didn't have this problem....or BnS JP/KR.   and yet NA does....is it an American copyright thing again?

 

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Tomoko   
1 minute ago, Enhance said:

Copyright has nothing to do with exploiting server vulnerabilities.

exploiting server vulnerabilities?  like what?  putting a picture in a profile?

 

cause we can do this in KR and JP.    but now on NA it sounds like we'll be banned if we put a .gifjpeg in.

 

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Gifs are way to beautiful and colourfull hell even inspirative to take out.

This is a way to big step backwards for people to stay silent about it.

 

No personallity options , no lyf

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Enhance   
1 hour ago, Tomoko said:

exploiting server vulnerabilities?  like what?  putting a picture in a profile?

 

cause we can do this in KR and JP.    but now on NA it sounds like we'll be banned if we put a .gifjpeg in.

 

Please refer to the above post that I wrote:

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What I took from it was that the system was likely being exploited to upload unintended non-image files, which could lead to instability and errors on loading profiles whatnot (and was likely the reason they took it down outside of maintenance schedule).

You could technically upload an exe file or a zip archive as your ""profile picture"" into the system as of right now, and they're fixing it. I believe there's a good chance they'll leave appropriate image formats (jpg, png, gif, bmp) alone.

 

 

And no, you won't be banned.  From the other thread:

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Tomoko   
1 hour ago, Enhance said:

Please refer to the above post that I wrote:

You could technically upload an exe file or a zip archive as your ""profile picture""

 

 

And no, you won't be banned.  From the other thread:

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ok. i didn't see that.

 

thank you =D

 

thank you thank you thank you!

 

 

 

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Rugba   

last night the character info wouldn't even load for me and overall it was always slow as hell, maybe that's a reason why they did this, the data center was probably being overloaded with huge gifs and what not.

 

now it loads pretty much instantly, some people still have their own pics they uploaded + the normal char pics.

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Reyfer   

I can understand banning blatantly pornographic images, but knowing how pc NA has become.......we're talking about the country where they use boobs to sell everything from pizza to beer to cars, but if a woman breastfeeds her kid in public she's a pervert, so you know what I mean

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Eckin   

For those speaking about "huge gifs" and file sizes, don't be so dense. JPGs can be just as heavy, and the pictures always had filesize limits, I would know since I got affected by it while trying to make gifs of my character. Maximum file size limit was somewhere below 5mb, for gifs or not.

 

(Cross-post from the other, larger thread that got closed)

 

As GM Rhenna said, GIFs don't mean adult images and should not have been removed like @Rukkirii implied.

 

Removing GIFs makes no sense. I'm legit upset about this even if for the majority of the playerbase its minor, because it's ANOTHER change we didn't need (like mail being locked, like outfits not being salvageable, like wardrobe being rental only, like making changes to skills not added to the changelog with each maintenance).

 

I can deal with bullshit changes every now and then but it adds up, and I'm losing my good will towards NCWest each time. My friends already left the game and I'm still here since my gf didn't leave (YET, since she is tired of GameGuard problems), but man doesn't these little things start to annoy me when I stop and think about them.

 

I trashtalk a lot here while playing/when out of the game, but I like the gameplay, I like the art style, I enjoy the story (even if butchered). I've given money to NCSoft already and I'm willing to give it again, but not so much when they ignore the playerbase like this.

 

Please @Rukkirii clarify this issue, should we trust your word or Rhenna's on the topic?

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6 hours ago, Yuina said:

Really? They shouldn't let people post nude pictures so it's only obvious they are going to disable the function and that doesn't have ANYTHING to do with the bots. You're just complaining because you want to complain.

Whatever. This is why i don't post on official forums; filled with white knights. A few people are abusing the photo upload feature so NCsoft's logic is to disable the feature. First of all, I don't see the issue with lewd photos when the game already has a NAKED chick in it. That being said, how about we apply NCsoft's Logic to the bots. Well you know... some of them are using emoticons, so we should get rid of those. They're abusing whispers, so let's disable the whisper feautre. They're abusing the mail system, so let's disable the mail system. They're abusing zen beans in arena, let's get rid of those no good beans. They're abusing the market, let's get rid of that thingy as well. I love being inconvenienced and having features disabled because a few people are abusing it. It really enhances my gaming experience. I'm sure this will encourage people to continue to play the game. I mean, who cares about them bots right? This is a higher priority issue.

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Enhance   
23 minutes ago, Eckin said:

For those speaking about "huge gifs" and file sizes, don't be so dense. JPGs can be just as heavy, and the pictures always had filesize limits, I would know since I got affected by it while trying to make gifs of my character. Maximum file size limit was somewhere below 5mb, for gifs or not.

I'm talking about file sizes among others, but I'm not talking about gifs in particular. It may or may not be possible to bypass the filesize restriction if doing it outside of the client, which could've been an issue that could've led to it being brought down. I suspect it was not simply gifs but non-image files leading to errors and stuttering of the whole service (the image upload was slow as balls yesterday - for a 100kb file).

As I mentioned few posts above, this urgent/rushed emergency takedown of upload service is very unlikely to be caused by gifs alone and their decision to (possibly) remove them, and even less for "inappropriate content".

I find it quite likely that the image upload will be back still with .gifs intact, but it's probably about as possible that it'll start rejecting them. They're ambiguous in that regard in the announcement.

 

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Also, I doubt jpegs of the allowed resolution (600 x 400ish) even at max quality will reach anywhere near 5MB, unless they're especially crafted to bypass the format optimization. But that's not the point.

Edited by Enhance

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ClxZero   

I NEED to add a complain to this ! How dare you talk about offensive sh$t when this actual game, no matter how amazing and fun it is; it's really insulting to all female gender, and even on a bigger stretch to the whole acceptance and diversity problems everywhere. You're *cricket*ing characters can only be super skinny and sexy in ONE way, only Big boobs allowed and 6-pack and yet you say players make offensive portraits crap??

Offensive is that I put money on this sh$t coz I like it and i liked to have a nice kawaii portrait of some sort and just like everyoen else I'm super pissed about bots and hacks and all that bullsh$t that screw up with the game, with the market and with the overall experience that, I ASSUME, you are trying to deliver.
 

SO FU KC THAT ! If you go on with this i'll freaking find a way to post real hard core p0rn until you do sth really meaningful about our issues coz i like the game and it's a shame the way you manage the main problems and I don't know how the fu kc to make myself be listened to, as I feel like with me and every other player you don't give a crap. I really wonder if koreans do not post porn or just dont b1tch about it, coz i'm pretty sure those reports of offensive portraits either don't exist or are made by a bunch of as$holes that you shouldnt even bother about, and as a dude said in page 1, there are better things to put your efforts in and distribute your freaking teams than in a FUC KING FEATURE THAT EVERBODY LOVES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM SUPER MAD

Besides its a great way to share art and a bit of ourselves <3 (calming down)

I do hope this post ends up deleted, at least that would mean an administrator read it or sth.

Conclusion: please let us keep our gifts, nudity is not a sin, your game is insulting already so make up your mind. Fin


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They better not get rid of my ability to upload .gifs... I'm a summoner and I have a really good one It took a while to get out of a video, get the right frame rate/resolution of a cat tackling a baby in the snow and it fits my class 100%. Don't take away my .gifs please!

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JMelo   

They probably won't take it away but probably take it down because someone abused it with in-appropriate images, I have seen a lot of players on Soha with naked man/woman pic, religon base image...and some got very nasty one on their profile. I don't care about it but some players do have sensitive motion, reaction about that. 

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1 hour ago, ClxZero said:

 

I think you're just being a little over sensitive. Should i be insulted that every jin or gon i make is buff with a 6 pack? Nah,  its the male equivalent of major sex appeal  like female bust and curves and it's not really that insulting.  You can't really compare the severity of what people put in the profiles and that. 

Edited by Karurosuda

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Luucy   
2 hours ago, DosonTheGreat said:

Well you know... some of them are using emoticons, so we should get rid of those. They're abusing whispers, so let's disable the whisper feautre. They're abusing the mail system, so let's disable the mail system. They're abusing zen beans in arena, let's get rid of those no good beans. They're abusing the market, let's get rid of that thingy as well.

I'll even add this one too : well, they mainly use Destroyers for botting, so let's delete this class !! :D 

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4 minutes ago, Luucy said:

I'll even add this one too : well, they mainly use Destroyers for botting, so let's delete this class !! :D 

NCSoft logic. Get rid of the abusers not the thing being abused.

Edited by DosonTheGreat

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MakeuCry   

Do you want nudity, porn or hentai ? go search it in pornhub or e-hentai, weeaboos, no trash gif allowed, deal with it.

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Formus   
2 hours ago, ClxZero said:

I NEED to add a complain to this ! How dare you talk about offensive sh$t when this actual game, no matter how amazing and fun it is; it's really insulting to all female gender, and even on a bigger stretch to the whole acceptance and diversity problems everywhere. You're *cricket*ing characters can only be super skinny and sexy in ONE way, only Big boobs allowed and 6-pack and yet you say players make offensive portraits crap??

Offensive is that I put money on this sh$t coz I like it and i liked to have a nice kawaii portrait of some sort and just like everyoen else I'm super pissed about bots and hacks and all that bullsh$t that screw up with the game, with the market and with the overall experience that, I ASSUME, you are trying to deliver.
 

SO FU KC THAT ! If you go on with this i'll freaking find a way to post real hard core p0rn until you do sth really meaningful about our issues coz i like the game and it's a shame the way you manage the main problems and I don't know how the fu kc to make myself be listened to, as I feel like with me and every other player you don't give a crap. I really wonder if koreans do not post porn or just dont b1tch about it, coz i'm pretty sure those reports of offensive portraits either don't exist or are made by a bunch of as$holes that you shouldnt even bother about, and as a dude said in page 1, there are better things to put your efforts in and distribute your freaking teams than in a FUC KING FEATURE THAT EVERBODY LOVES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM SUPER MAD

Besides its a great way to share art and a bit of ourselves <3 (calming down)

I do hope this post ends up deleted, at least that would mean an administrator read it or sth.

Conclusion: please let us keep our gifts, nudity is not a sin, your game is insulting already so make up your mind. Fin


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demn i hear that gif xD

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Ghrim   

Have we all forgotten that the ERSB Rating for this game is M? Hmmm seems like it.

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