Quitting Review - BnS is pretty hollow.

[Emperium]

Hello everyone, not another "I QUIT BNS SUCKS" rant post but just someone giving their final thoughts on the game.

 

I've played to 45 and beaten most PVE content, 1700-1800 on Arena 1v1, not a Pro but I would consider myself an experienced player.  As the Bot situation escalates on a daily basis, I've been considering what to really do about this game.  Also Black Desert coming out draws my attention away as well.  Finally I made the decision to move to Black Desert instead of HOPING that one day they will fix bots.  Which they won't, why?  Korea and all other regions still have Bots, so how can they fix it here if they can't fix it in the older regions, not gonna happen folks, don't keep your hopes up.

 

Black Desert has no bots because you can't trade gold, even in the AH.  That's another story, not here to promote BDO.  Looking at Blade and Soul, I was ok with Bots in the beginning, they didn't bother me and I didn't see them much.  Nowadays, every arena, every instance, while doing pvp daily, all I see are Bots.  It makes me want to play less and less thinking how the game is so riddled with Bots everywhere.

 

So I analyzed a little bit more to see if I want to play BnS I have to live with Bots, is BnS still worth play?  I say not really.

 

In the beginning, there's alot of hype around BnS, but that was 6 years ago.  Yes I love the combat system, the graphic is nice too, but what does this game really boils down to.

 

As for gameplay and questing, you are constantly entering Caves (one kind or another) to do quests, I can't remember how many caves I had to go in to while leveling to 45. I caught myself thinking, damn another cave?  Oh well. Then end game is basically all dailies every day with 24 mans being all Zergs, and 6 mans are just like blue dungeons.  And don't get me started with Mushin's tower, that is such a waste of time and it is exactly like all those other Mobile games out there (Seven Knight).

 

But what about other ways to play?  Is there another way?  Crafting is all crap, PVP is full of bots, what else can you really do in BnS really?

PVE - Repetitive Easy Content (bots)

Crafting - Useless

PVP (Bots)

??? Farm for customs?  Oh yeah they are character bound, GG no Re.

 

So in conclusion, Blade and Soul is just a fancier version of a mobile RPG game.  The graphics and gameplay is great but the end game content and how you progressive is so predictable and repetitive.  

 

Viridiin - Cinderland - moonwater - silverfrost - ?? - ??

 

You know what's coming next, in terms of item progression and type of game play.  With Silverfrost, you will be doing the same thing- Dailies.  Grind Grind Grind the same quest, dungeon and mobs to upgrade your weapon.

 

This game is pretty hollow at its core and really doesn't live up to the hype at all.

 

Let's see how Black Desert is.

 

PS I could give you me gold, but you will get banned for RMT, better not risk it.

 

 

[Kaliga]

I'm on Soha and I don't mind the risk, pfff by the time NCsoft review my log to ban me I'm already gone from this world....

[Xogi]

Hello, and bye. 

 

No, on the serious topic. If you think Blade & Soul is grindy, you haven't played a real korean mmorpg before. Black Desert Online is all about grind and gear, past lvl 50 you'll spend 40 minutes of your day to get 1%, and it's super grindy - Oh wait, did I mention you can get pk'ed and receive a 2% exp penalty, if not more? <-- This information is from a friend of mine who's taking a break from Blade & Soul to play Black Desert. Not to mention the gear-gap in Black Desert will take you months, along with awakening weapons "soon" to come in a future patch. 

[LilithDragonFlower]

I quit the game because I was forced to, Over-All I like the game simply because its way better than Vindictus, and better than Tera in many ways, the problem with the game.

 

1.) Main reason I quit is because of Game-Guard, I do not consent to have this installed on my computer, it caused problems in the past and will again its Malicious and doesn't stop bots, I was able to play for like a week with Game Guard disabled and I paid like $150 in the game before finding out they were going to require Game Guard.

 

2.) Crafting Could have been better, Make it Sand-Box based so users can learn all crafts in the game, but over-all most crafting was pointless except some useful consumables and upgrade / soul shields.

 

3.) Make Material Storage Account Bound all characters on the same account.

 

4.) Make costumes share-able across account, and Wardrobe.

 

Forcing people to have to be premium or not have anywhere to put costumes is also just flat dumb makes a user really have to subscribe wasn't a problem for me though cuz I subscribed but can't play now because of it.

 

Over-All B&S Great game, but being ruined by NCsoft and the developers, could have been one of the best games but now only hope is for new games to come out, and Dark Fall / Revival to be worth playing Black Desert was a failure too.

[ChickenSandwich]

I'm getting along with the bots pretty good right now, free pvp kills and what not. Idk for how long tho. I'll prob give this game another few weeks maybe. 

 

 

 

[Daishi]

The grind is enjoyable to an extent but it is practically impossible with the current performance issues. My reason for leaving is being a KFM. LAG, Stuttering and FPS drops just kill my performance. More often than not, I am waiting for that AOE or attack animation only to freeze for half a second and miss that counter/dodge window in order to get hit for half my health bar. It is not fun at all. I might come back IF NCSoft gets its shit together...one can only hope.

[Brand X]

Grinding for gear.  If you didn't have that to do, you'd be complaining you have nothing to do :p  People want the end game dungeons and raids for something to do, but they always want a reward they can get from it :p

 

If you enjoy the combat and the gameplay (the people you play with would be nice too) that's all that matters.  All MMOs either have grinding at the end or you're just running content to run it, in which case, how is that any different than grinding? o.O

[princode]

Same bot in areana make me quit the game. ...fighting 20 matches of bot  destroyer make me want to fall asleep. Now this patch come bot had evolve kmf and summoner bot in pla rank

[Strawberries]

Well if NC West would've just used the current log-in security system in JP BnS, bots wouldn't even be a problem but no.

[chinmi]

can i haz ur stuff ?

 

[Teffy]

I wish we had more bots in Eu.I would farm them ez beans.So far I think I had in 1 month maybe 3-4 bots and that was at the beggining of BSH patch(when they introduce the zen beans)up to like low gold.Didn't seen bots in weeks now but then again I do like 3-4 matches 1v1 per day.Could be that.

I don't know what people expect.We had bots in lin2 and aion during p2p as well.They steal accounts,credit card infos,etc and they always find a way to get in.

Lag is different matter thu.In EU the lag is just horrible,and I though Gameforge was bad lol.In arena often I can't even SS or F and the delay...You see your enemy is about to charge on you with some stun and as FM I try that freakin E to open my ice for V but nooo I just stood there waiting to get comboed....fml.

[MissApril]

AAA AAA AAA good bye :D

 

Paying 45$ just to play a beta?... i'd rather deal with deez bots :D

[Brand X]

The games hype was it's combat, and it's still one of the best mmo's for combat!

 

What other mmo has grapples?

 

Only TERA and WildStar equal BnS to me.  Other's are the tab target MMOs that people generally say they don't want in masses on the forums, but then you hear something different from masses in the game :p

[Aluvis]

If you think Blade and Soul has "hollow" content wait until you play BDO. I'll be interested to read what you have to say about that game.

[sleyes]

I think people talking about the "grind" are missing the point.

 

EVERY MMO has a grind. Some more, some less, but it's the nature of the beast.

 

In Blade and Soul, however, there is ONLY the grind. Grind thru quests to level; grind dailies for gold; grind Arena for beans. All of this to upgrade your weapon/shields so you can grind some more.

 

But what about other game systems?

Housing? Nope

Crafting? Are you kidding me?

AH/Economy "game"? Trade one or two item types, but what's the point if you can just buy gold with your credit card?

Roleplay? I don't think so.

Mount/Pet collecting? Nope.

Minigames? Spinning the wheels is hardly fun

Exploration? Nope - it's all on a rail

Raiding? Not really.

 

I like the story, and I love the combat, but Blade and Soul falls flat on every other possible gameplay front. Adding cute costumes to the store isn't going to save this game from its lack of depth. I read somewhere today that there are seven story chapters so far, and we've only seen three here, but I don't know if I can hang around long enough to see any more. And if i'm not leveling characters, I don't see much point in keeping a membership.

[xXMakiMakiXx]

I'm taking a few weeks off from BnS to reset myself. Hopefully that will give them some time to fix a few things. That should leave a few weeks left in my premium membership to see if it's worth renewing or just write off my losses (I've spent quite a bit of money in this game from preorder up til now, does that make me a whale? I don't want to even think about that right now LOL)

 

As others have stated, the ease of leveling combined with the grind has left me bored and has allowed the flaws, bugs, etc of the game to grab my attention more than they should be.

 

It's been said over and over that no game is perfect, but an entertaining game can mask some of its issues while they are worked on.

This experience has made me question what it is that I really enjoy about MMO's anymore. None of these games really encourage anything related to multiplayer activities. And if they do, it is for a very short period of time.

 

Maybe I'm just in a cynical mindset right now and this break will reset my outlook, but right now all of these regurgitations of previous games with different skins make me sick. I feel sorry for all of us gamers being subjected to these shallow, money grabbing companies that seek only to serve their customers until their profit/loss goal has been achieved and then let games and customers fall off a cliff.

 

Gah, I need a drink!! xD

 

 

[qpoljanan]

Like I've said in previous threads before, I really think Blade & Soul is one of those MMOs that would have really benefited if it was instead a single player, open world game but with multiplayer features, that way you could enjoy the combat without worry for ping affecting your combos. And what's worse than a game that only has combat going for it when you can't even properly use your skills since most of the time the enemy would already be smacking you in the head before your character could even counter? It sucks because it feels like artificial difficulty; most of the punishment you character suffers is not even your own fault, but your ISP's or the overloaded servers themselves. 

 

Oh and maybe the fact that the game's UI is missing a lot of very basic features (Erm, where is our character stat sheet by the way?). That is a major turn off for me. 

[Mesmerize]

A game stops being fun when you log in to do the same dailies everyday and log out, just so you don't feel like you're being left behind, making it feel like a job. At this point, I've limited my dailies to just 24 people zones as the dungeons are infested with 2-3 bots minimum per run (even poh and bhs). No one joins the f7 recruit links, I really tried. Arenas are 98% destroyer bots. Dungeon bots are HM 3 which means that even after being reported, they've been farming for so long and not getting banned.

[ChickenSandwich]

7 hours ago, Emperium said:

 

 

As for gameplay and questing, you are constantly entering Caves (one kind or another) to do quests, I can't remember how many caves I had to go in to while leveling to 45. I caught myself thinking, damn another cave?  Oh well. Then end game is basically all dailies every day with 24 mans being all Zergs, and 6 mans are just like blue dungeons.  And don't get me started with Mushin's tower, that is such a waste of time and it is exactly like all those other Mobile games out there (Seven Knight).

 

 

 

YOU SAID IT BROTHER!  BLADE & CAVE ONLINE IS AWFUL!

 

 If I have to kill one more PIRATE!

Hear one more DEFENDED!

Brother Hajoon send me one more DIRTY FLYER!

Quietly burn to death alone in one more HALLWAY!

Sit at one more 2 minute LOADING SCREEN!

Quest Google map leads me to one more CAVE!

Fall to my death because server decides to derp my WINDSTRIDE!

Get T-Bagged by one more summoner cat in pvp! IF IT FITS, I SITS! IT REALLY STINKS DOWN THERE! PLEASE BATHE YOUR CATS!

 

 

I'M GOING RAGE AND FLING DEADLY RUBBER BANDS AT NCSOFT HEADQUARTERS BUILDING! ARGH!

 

[qpoljanan]

3 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

 

YOU SAID IT BROTHER!  BLADE & CAVE ONLINE IS AWFUL!

 

 If I have to kill one more PIRATE!

Hear one more DEFENDED!

Brother Hajoon send me one more DIRTY FLYER!

Quietly burn to death alone in one more HALLWAY!

Sit at one more 2 minute LOADING SCREEN!

Quest Google map leads me to one more CAVE!

Fall to my death because server decides to derp my WINDSTRIDE!

Get T-Bagged by one more summoner cat in pvp! IF IT FITS, I SITS! IT REALLY STINKS DOWN THERE! PLEASE BATHE YOUR CATS!

 

 

I'M GOING RAGE AND FLING DEADLY RUBBER BANDS AT NCSOFT HEADQUARTERS BUILDING! ARGH!

 

 

 

Lol. I always laugh at how hammy the voice actors for the human enemies are. 

 

DE-FEEEN-DED!

GET READY! (Lol was this line taken from porn or something?)

IT'S NOT WORKING!

 

[RyceCream]

So you just complained about how grindy and repetitive this game is, then talk about moving to BDO? Wat

BDO is far more grindy and repetitive. Mob grind for days on end and occassionally getting rolled over by a higher geared player in OWPvP.

[ChickenSandwich]

I wish BDO would at least give a free trial, one week, two days, lvl 20 or something, before they make buy the game. I'm fan of spending my money on games too. To me it's a hobby more so than a thing I do. So i'm not mad at all that's  its not free, just want to take a peek to see what's all the hype for. 

[IronEleven]

12 hours ago, sleyes said:

I think people talking about the "grind" are missing the point.

 

EVERY MMO has a grind. Some more, some less, but it's the nature of the beast.

 

In Blade and Soul, however, there is ONLY the grind. Grind thru quests to level; grind dailies for gold; grind Arena for beans. All of this to upgrade your weapon/shields so you can grind some more.

 

But what about other game systems?

Housing? Nope

Crafting? Are you kidding me?

AH/Economy "game"? Trade one or two item types, but what's the point if you can just buy gold with your credit card?

Roleplay? I don't think so.

Mount/Pet collecting? Nope.

Minigames? Spinning the wheels is hardly fun

Exploration? Nope - it's all on a rail

Raiding? Not really.

 

I like the story, and I love the combat, but Blade and Soul falls flat on every other possible gameplay front. Adding cute costumes to the store isn't going to save this game from its lack of depth. I read somewhere today that there are seven story chapters so far, and we've only seen three here, but I don't know if I can hang around long enough to see any more. And if i'm not leveling characters, I don't see much point in keeping a membership.

You hit the nail right on the head.

 

[Teffy]

Housing? Fml you want to re-decorate my house?Sure,want my adress?

Crafting? Some are good,some are not,each has something people want.

AH games? Whenever I'm bored I do it and usually I end up with decent profit.Know the game just.

Mount/Pet collecting? Wow much? In games I played those shits was mostly cash and only.

Minigames? I have Tetris,you wanna play with me?

Exploration? There is always something cool you didn't seen.Trust me.

Raiding? We will have,just we are behind.

[Boscodash]

i thought the reason we play mmo is for grinding, raiding and pvp.

._. lol RP is a minority(still dont know why people do these, to scratch their fetish itch?).

raiding is already available in future content(asia) and we will get eventually

housing(never gonna get that)

pets are coming 

minigames(very little here but i didnt even bother doing those on gw2)

exploration(games pretty linear due to the retarded amount of invisible walls) 

mounts destroy the need for windwalk.