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Wow I cant believe I'm saying this but I think they have to temporarily disable the soulstone pouch purchase with Zen beans. Yes I know its horrible idea but this will keep bots out of arena for the time being until NC Soft can figure out a way to remove the bots from the arena. We all know the only reason the bots are there is to farm the soulstone pouch. So please "TEMPORARILY DISABLE" Soulstone pouch until you guys can come up with a fix. 

 

Thanks,

 

Menowapi

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This won't help with the bot problem. Bots were swarming servers before zen beans were introduced. And they will stay here. There are ways to eradicate bots completely, but it requires NCWest to invest into it. Simple fixes which don't require any investment won't help in this situation.

 

Bots are here because they farm gold. Because playrs need tons of gold for evolution. And soulstones aren't the only way to earn gold for bots. As someone mentioned in another thread you will have to disable any gold transactions (effectively making any gold account bound), any item transactions. But it will kill game, not only bots.

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bot do everything even the slightest action who can give them gold . so this will never end .

 

they can produce infinite bot who will craf , gather , arena , and afk in dungeon or field boss .

for stop them we need gm in game it's the only solution and th emost efficace often

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I think you missed my point man. I understand this won't get rid of bot's in general but it will get rid of bots in arena. The only reason they're there is for soulstones. With no soulstones then there's no income then there's no bots "IN ARENA" so this wasn't meant as a suggestion to get rid of bots completely but to free up the Arena where players try to improve their skills with each other and play for fun. 

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they are also the daily arena who can give reason to bot to come in arena but i agree than without soulstone zen bean are totally useless .

and the bot rate will decrease . but if this happen some people will give up arena because he would have no value to win beside the fight .

And we all know than most of the player are greedy so the population in arena will decrease or we will have more thread about why aena is useless

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3 minutes ago, Oishii said:

I would like to see untradeable soulstones awarded from arena. It sucks to see them in the world, but it's just boring facing them in arena.

this would be a good idea and this will kill the summ alt who are so present in arena . but you will heard all the player who don't main destro , BD or scummoner whine over than have alt is useless

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PvP soulstones need to be replaced with hongmoon soulstones that can be used just like soulstones, except untradable.

This would lead to bots giving up on the PvP arena (not profitable).

 

2 hours ago, Onene said:

Untradeable soulstones = no profit for pvp'ers unless they craft...and we all know how tedious that is.

 

Soulstones are needed for almost everything, including upgrades. >_>

Plus, not being able to sell would also reduce the 3vs3 afking scum a bit.

 

We don't need people searching for profit in PvP anyways, it's meant to be there for FUN.

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A lot of us, myself included play this game for PVP and don't give a *cricket* about the PVE. Like literally I couldn't care less about it and I hate having to do it.

If it weren't for soulstones I'd have no way to make money to buy my hongmoon skill books.

 

Also, the botters aren't just Chinese farmers, a lot of people do it because they blow and just want ranking/ranking rewards at the end of the season. Take a look at all those summoners who were getting to Diamond using the bot/hacks.

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13 hours ago, Vexe said:

PvP soulstones need to be replaced with hongmoon soulstones that can be used just like soulstones, except untradable.

This would lead to bots giving up on the PvP arena (not profitable).

 

 

Soulstones are needed for almost everything, including upgrades. >_>

Plus, not being able to sell would also reduce the 3vs3 afking scum a bit.

 

We don't need people searching for profit in PvP anyways, it's meant to be there for FUN.

This game's main focus is arena pvp, there are people who play the whole day and they don't even touch pve, they just get out of the arena lobby to spend their zen beans and then go right back in. I can say the same about pve, we don't need people searching profit in pve, it's meant to be there for fun.

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it would actually be easier then this to fix

 

If NCSoft, Disabled capability to be queued against a blocked player in PvP or be queued with a blocked player in PvE, bots would lose Group capabilities pretty quickly.

 

Also if they implemented a Game results screen, (like MoBA) Displaying winner and loser with Replay match etc etc, this would mean players could report the Queue Number to NCSoft to view the game from their Recording system which would allow them to decide if its a bot or not.

 

no players going to troll blocking to get around playing with others, without a damn good reason as they'd be increasing queue lengths for themselves aswell in the process, this would quite rapidly lose bots cause they'd be forced to reroll at such a rate to avoid the Inability to queue.

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They either need tyo remove soul stones or ban all destroyers from arena,yes that would hurt ACTUAL destros but the problem is so bad now that it needs to be done. 90% of arena destros are bots 90 *cricket*ing %

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23 hours ago, Dray0s said:

If NCSoft, Disabled capability to be queued against a blocked player in PvP or be queued with a blocked player in PvE, bots would lose Group capabilities pretty quickly.

I like how this idea should work. However, bots are an endless resource. This means it is all too easy to create bots for the sole purpose of pvp. These bots would not have been blocked by most people. Even if there were an easy block option from within a round in arena, that only keeps them from facing the same people again. Occasionally you do face the same person, but that's not exactly common.

 

As for the other idea you mentioned, we are never going to be told the actual bot detection methods. Chances are any kind of method we come up with has been or is being used. But we won't be told since that would only damage the efficiency of that method. Not that we shouldn't post methods. It's good conversation and who knows? Maybe it'll be something they haven't tried. But it's never going to get a response from the people trying to fix the problem.

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