mihwK

This game is pay to win, you know it, or I will show you.

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mihwK   

I would like to have the defending people of this game explain me how this is not pay to win:

 

BM /  Warlock / BD - BSH 4man Skill Books

 

These Books:

- have a price of 400g+!

- they increase the power of the character tremendously

 

I tried to inform myself over the Warlock, and people say the book will increase the DMG by 70%.

I've watched MANY youtube videos, where ppl would talk about builds and specifically say "you can't do this without the BSH book".

 

A person willing to spend irL money, is able to buy Gold and with that, able to buy these insanely overpriced books.

If I face a mirror match in arena as any of the stated classes above, the game will be unfair. It's not an even match at all, and my enemy has the potential to buy this power = pay to win.

 

Whiteknights (fanboys) assemble!

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news757   

Just save your money up and buy it. Just because you're broke dont cry pay2win. Im far off from buying the book nor do I care at lvl1 warlock but will save my money up to buy it.

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mihwK   
2 minutes ago, news757 said:

Just save your money up and buy it. Just because you're broke dont cry pay2win. Im far off from buying the book nor do I care at lvl1 warlock but will save my money up to buy it.

Just because you have to save up for it, doesn't mean someone else isn't able to simply buy this power for money, it's not fair.

 

P2W is about getting an advantage over others with money, which these books exactly do, their drop rate is insanely low.

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First learn what pay2win is. Second you can farm the book yourself, noone said you have to buy it from Marketplace (which is player controlled not by NCSoft).

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DoowieEU   

"zomg guys, it's P2W because I can't afford the skill people that people are selling on the Auction House!"

 

mihwK I just need to go and tell me mum what you said as well, as I'm sure she will also find it very informative.

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news757   

Aint gonna argue with you, there are thousands of post with people crying like you.  You should have just joined one of those. Enjoy...

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Nickilli   

No pay to win means the only way to obtain something is with real life cash a paywall....

 

Gold is earned in game therefore it is not in anyway shape or form pay to win....

 

 

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news757   

Why are you playing this game if you want to cry p2w???? Just leave or are you bored and just want to spark conversation?

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DoowieEU   

zomg guys, people are selling items for large amounts of gold that I can't afford ... it has to be P2W!!!!

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mihwK   

They said, they won't do pay to win stuff in this game, they keep saying this many many times aswel.

You should learn what pay to win means, I already stated and copied you the dictionary, atleast try to fanboy a little smarter.

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Yeager   

So... Are you telling us you can't manage to save gold for some days or that you can't even find a roster for at least a daily BSH4 ?

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news757   
Just now, DoowieEU said:

zomg guys, people are selling items for large amounts of gold that I can't afford ... it has to be P2W!!!!

Hahaha thanks for the laugh

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mihwK   
3 minutes ago, DoowieEU said:

zomg guys, people are selling items for large amounts of gold that I can't afford ... it has to be P2W!!!!

Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items then everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pay-to-win

 

It's okay bobby, I will explain this to you, I'm expecting brainless people when I make a thread like this.

 

Someone who can buy power at a faster rate because he pays for it, is the definiton of p2w. Just because you can save up gold doesn't mean it's not p2w. I just rocked your world, admit it.

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Caex   

so... your logic here is this

 

A Person has a CHOICE and its not RECQUIRED to buy gold ( and potentially get banned for this) to buy a silly item in a game that could potentially make a character jsut a bit stronger....

 

This is not the definition of Pay to win. Pleeeeease stop waving around this Pay to win crap for every little thing... jesus you kids are embarrassing  me to call myself a gamer =/

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DoowieEU   

zomg, but guys ... to be a real gamer I have to say everything is P2W because I'm not as good as everyone else! zOMG!

 

[enter random urban-dictionary link about what a real gamer is]

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(If you can't afford something, go earn it yourself. Getting the minimum equipment for 4 man BSH isn't difficult with proper resource management.

The only difficult part will be groups that don't know what they are doing and the drop rate. The books are expensive for a reason.)

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6 minutes ago, mihwK said:

Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items then everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying.

 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pay-to-win

 

Get #rekt kid, you should learn before you open your mouth.

I'm simply posting a statement as a question. This shit is pay to win, it's 100% PAY TO WIN. I don't need any explanation, I simply need people to see it so NCSoft can go back to their word and do something about it.

Whoever came up with this explanation of a definition is a retard. No wonder you don't know what P2W governs when you're using fake sources in the first place.

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news757   

That awkward moment when OP thought everyone was going to agree with him/her hahaha. This forum has been so much entertainment today. 

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Yeager   

So by that logic/definition almost every game is a P2W. Sorry but that's how money works, it will always make things faster. Now stop whining and deal with it.

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10 minutes ago, mihwK said:

Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items then everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying.

 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pay-to-win

 

Get #rekt kid, you should learn before you open your mouth. Buying that Book for irL money(Euros = Gold) means at a faster rate.

I'm simply posting a statement as a question. This shit is pay to win, it's 100% PAY TO WIN. I don't need any explanation, I simply need people to see it so NCSoft can go back to their word and do something about it.

First of all that is pay2advance not pay2win. Second, again it is the players that make the prices not the Devs, so just because it costs 400g now and you cannot afford it doesn't mean it is pay2win. Before Warlock announcement the his book was ~30g on EU which you can farm in 1 week with super casual play (30-60mins per day).

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