zubatusedfly Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 so your acusing me, someone who plays with a controler that has perfect fm ani cancel for days of using macros? not all of us that look like maco users are macro users. some of us, have years upon years of trained reflexes and reflex memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakuraki Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 On 19.03.2016 г. at 11:23 AM, rocnogu said: yes. it cast skills insta and u dont brake ur fingers . the game is poorly made and thats why u need to have 10 fingers hand to manage hit all skills . combo as tab-lmb-rmb-v-2-tab-lmb-rmb-1-f-4 i mean :) wtf is this combo ? a special v-2 part . loo at ur keyboard and telll me how u can do it without leave comtrolls ? Do you really think this is a hard combo? I played a lot other games that requires a lot more efford to put a single combo. The best pvp game ever created so far is C9 (continent of the ninth) and BNS is nothing close to it, cause u mainly use no more than 4-5skills. But its true macro users are just bad people who takes advantage of their systems, which is necessery bad but still. Also if you think Razer is the best brand out there you are mistaken so badly its just overpriced carbage. But thats true, friend of mine is playing KFM with low ping and he can do 3rf probably better than the most of macro users and he gets flamed a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suna Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I do only dailies with my destro alt for easy soulstones and i have getting blamed by using macroes several times and i have never used ones. Ppl wanna have some kind of excuse why did they lose. Why is that hard for human nature agree that your opponent was better than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anveena Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 On 19/03/2016 at 0:05 PM, TmXx said: "yes. it cast skills insta and u dont brake ur fingers . the game is poorly made and thats why u need to have 10 fingers hand to manage hit all skills . combo as tab-lmb-rmb-v-2-tab-lmb-rmb-1-f-4 i mean :) wtf is this combo ? a special v-2 part . loo at ur keyboard and telll me how u can do it without leave comtrolls ?" How to do it ?? With learn and practise !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have you even played other real fighting games like C9 or MBAACC? This combo is not even hard and Blade and Soul is nothing hard like the aforementioned games. The real issue at the mooment is hackers (and poor game design to let such things possible in a MMORPG - like did you ever play any other MMORPG with ramping hackers like BnS?!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arohk Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 On 28.2.2016 at 6:52 AM, Kutsuu said: Does it make you feel good to accuse anyone who beats you of using macros? you can clearly see if someone makroes you to death with a perfect attack and combo chain in a few seconds. like this http://i.imgur.com/4sQWBru.gifv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anveena Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 14 minutes ago, Arohk said: you can clearly see if someone makroes you to death with a perfect attack and combo chain in a few seconds. like this http://i.imgur.com/4sQWBru.gifv Well in Korea any low gold destroyer does this with no macro. But they all have a godlike ping. I don't see anything wrong this the gify you posted as it is perfectly legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUnewearl Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 14 minutes ago, Arohk said: you can clearly see if someone makroes you to death with a perfect attack and combo chain in a few seconds. like this http://i.imgur.com/4sQWBru.gifv He could fit more hits if he were more aggressive with his timing. It's just not necessary to do things actually perfectly if all you're doing is obliterating novices who blow their tabs (or in this case, 2) AND their defense AND their cat's knockdown without so much as taking away even ONE of the opponent's stuns. This means you had to use your escape on a Daze or Knockdown, and before he used any of his main cooldowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anveena Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 1 hour ago, HUnewearl said: He could fit more hits if he were more aggressive with his timing. It's just not necessary to do things actually perfectly if all you're doing is obliterating novices who blow their tabs (or in this case, 2) AND their defense AND their cat's knockdown without so much as taking away even ONE of the opponent's stuns. This means you had to use your escape on a Daze or Knockdown, and before he used any of his main cooldowns. That is what happens when you blow your escape indeed. The fault of the summonner, the destroyer is not to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocnogu Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Arohk said: you can clearly see if someone makroes you to death with a perfect attack and combo chain in a few seconds. like this http://i.imgur.com/4sQWBru.gifv yes. some destros *cricket* me in the arena with this macro :) almost all use it . i also had destro and i know very well how u can cast the skills. in the same way . they w8 u to use the esc and then use the macro. ur dead in 4 sec or so . and yes. should have ban for this . if they adopt macros from other games , then all can have macros . and will be fair. and now most of then use loading time in the arena to jump u before the arena is load . and ur dead in 4 sec :) which is actually exploit the game imperfections . in other words , cheating. but . thats the nc soft game . its normal . bots are normal. macros are normal .bugs . exploits. scams . gold sell . u can play the game in this way, or just find better one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaizard666 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 LOL PLS if anyone have this macro share with me >.< I'm Destroyer and I never get to do anything like that at the best I get half of all that dmg in the same time... It's so buggy in arena I can't even start to talk about it... anicancel is so easy in pve when I get to arena is impossible to do it... I'd say laws of phisics are diferent or something LEL! I have 23ms ping gentlemen and it's impossible for me to beat summoner or kfm or lbd and I'm starting to wonder why that is... My Pc GeForce GTX 650 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz 8GB RAM SSD Kingston 120GB Am I missing something here? call me crazy pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terimac Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 On 2016-03-20 at 3:37 PM, Arohk said: you can clearly see if someone makroes you to death with a perfect attack and combo chain in a few seconds. like this http://i.imgur.com/4sQWBru.gifv Is that you, and did it happen yesterday? Because the destroyer looks like a streamers character, and hes the one who won the latest tournament. kinda hard to be sure unless you tell me the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakuraki Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Also if im not mistaken he have HM skill and here comes the huge difference, been playing with destro in russian one and this combo is actually kinda hard, but once you get used to it its pretty nice combo. Im currently playing with BM ,but destro is also one of my favourite class, cause its pretty hard against good player, but its easier than BM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexter Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Many PvPers using macros. Many of them have premium. Terms&Conditions are one thing, but reality is another story. They will be never banned in waves. Maybe aome as exemplary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUnewearl Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 10 hours ago, Vaizard666 said: I'm Destroyer and I never get to do anything like that at the best I get half of all that dmg in the same time... It's so buggy in arena I can't even start to talk about it... anicancel is so easy in pve when I get to arena is impossible to do it... Am I missing something here? call me crazy pls Arena ping is often much higher than open world ping because NCSoft has some major bugs to work out. That said, I get 250-400 ping in Arena still, and I can Wrath cancel just fine. Are you specced correctly? 2 points in Wrath stage 1, 4 points in Cleave for stage 3? Just hit Fury or Power Slam, park your ass in one place (else Cleave won't fire at all, which you should know), and quickly alternate between R and RMB. You can use LMB instead of R, but I find it obnoxious to do and almost never use LMB anymore. For the guy in the gif, all he does is Blitz (stun) Fury R RMB (WHIFF) RMB -- tries to R RMB too fast and misses the Wrath strike Ram (stun) R RMB R RMB (WHIFF) - misses another Wrath shot Stone Shield (stun) Smash (clears Stone Shield) R RMB R RMB R (RMB -- already dead before attack lands, but lag lets him fire off the attack before) Again, the Destroyer could have done better by being more conservative with the attack timing and more aggressive with the number of hits. He got most of what he needed out of Ram, but he was way early going from Blitz to Ram (like, a full second early, 3 hits at least), and screwed up his attacks several times. He may well have not cared, because again, summoner clearly had no idea what he was doing and blew all of his important defenses immediately. 8 hours ago, Sakuraki said: Also if im not mistaken he have HM skill and here comes the huge difference The only HM skill Destroyers have right now is Emberstomp, which wasn't even used here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyranei Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Its like people have never played a fighting game like Guilty Gear or Melty Blood. Combos in those games required a lot of inputs, often times frame-perfect. I was decent at Melty Blood but it was a lot of work to even get that far. I didn't even bother with Guilty Gear because that game required even more practice. TL;DR: People can actually input the minor combos this game has. Its not hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaizard666 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Yeah I know how to anicancel and I have the right specs but the problem is the ping and to tech out of kfm's is impossible most of the times that arena ping tho is quite something.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vio Ignis Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 On 3/20/2016 at 10:37 AM, Arohk said: you can clearly see if someone makroes you to death with a perfect attack and combo chain in a few seconds. like this http://i.imgur.com/4sQWBru.gifv lol, that gif just tells me to tell you that "you shouldn't use all your cc on one go (dont spend them all in one place)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azraelkun Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 On 27/2/2016 at 7:52 AM, Kutsuu said: Does it make you feel good to accuse anyone who beats you of using macros? He accused macroers not the ppl that just beat him .js Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadeath Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I've only met one guy that I know he's using macros, but It's not for pvp, It's because he can't use his left hand. Should that be bannable? He doesn't abuse pvp aspect of it, he just doesn't have other ways to do his rotations in pve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enhance Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 On 3/19/2016 at 4:20 PM, Anveena said: Have you even played other real fighting games like C9 or MBAACC? On 3/21/2016 at 10:47 AM, Tyranei said: Its like people have never played a fighting game like Guilty Gear or Melty Blood. Woah, people are calling MB(AACC) a "real fighting game" :O I only played it because Nrvnqsr is mai waifu! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeteX Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Seriously guys, macros might help you in gold, but as soon as u get to plat/dia ppl will be able to do stuff just as well without macros. I myself don't give a shit if ppl use macros or not, cuz honestly there are no difference. They still need to have a decent game sense and know their stuff, and most people are wrongfully accused of the usage of this anyways. 3rf, anicancel and stun refresh are all things u can master easily with a total of a couple of hours on the friggin pigs in hogshead hamlet. When you get to Diamond, there will seriously NEVER be a guy who can't anicancel or 3rf like a god, and refresh a stun with less than 0.1 sec left of it. Stop whining about other people and do something to improve yourself instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeteX Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 On 19.3.2016 at 3:37 PM, Arohk said: you can clearly see if someone makroes you to death with a perfect attack and combo chain in a few seconds. like this http://i.imgur.com/4sQWBru.gifv This guy is ovliously NOT using macros dude, his timing is off, he was late canceling his shield with the use of his x-skill and he wasn't even close to using the full duration of his first stun. I would say that in terms of his anicanceling, stunusage and the time he used to cancel his shield, we are looking at a high gold player, or a low plat on a bad day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RinDman Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Lol, one thing I want to say about our class ( Des ), we are not the worst : Knee and blitz fail against runner and speed buff stackers noob class when lag is heavy ... And we don't have big iframes skills, very short ones where you can avoid them ... The only macro I've seen playing against a Des : Typhoon ( red spin ), while using Z ( vacuum ) and X in 1 sec ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dray0s Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 tbh, NGL... everyone who wins gets called a "macroer".. KFMs get accused left right and centre, its bull that u can tell. its impossible to tell if ur fighting a Low Ping Player or a Macroer, end of, no one has any idea if they're fighting a player who is or isn't, why? u don't fight the same person regularly enough to scream Macroer what is the difference between Lets Say, a top tier PvP Player on 10 ping whos Mastered their Class playing 24 hours a day until its Physically Imprinted to their brains and the next guy who uses a Macro your Pressing 3 Buttons at a Specific Speed in order to achieve a Anti-cancel, all it takes is Low Ping and Practicing it Continously, its not that hard to recognise the speed of something apart 1,00,000,00000 times of using the EXACT same buttons for the EXACT same combination to achieve the EXACT SAME Anti-cancel. and Before someone tries to yell at me "only a Tiny population play games that Hard" bull, its a KR MMO, ALOT of players who are into these types of games put MASSES of hours into it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenOwl Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I like macros, because it is unreal to press 3 buttons in row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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