Huniverse Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Im currently playing Lyn Blade Dancer, everything feels hard to beat, I mean every single class. Im getting bad experience with the game feels very unbalanced. Im not having fun at all its like tryhard mode all the way to lose in the end. feelsbadman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutsuu Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 PVP in this game isn't easy. You are playing a very strong class - you simply need to learn. Check out the Blade Dancer forum for guides and videos and put in the time. Also finish leveling up if you have not yet. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toragos Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 put more effort into the gameplay, look up youtube videos of people playing in pvp. I had problems as a KFM fighting SINS, I basicly made a SIN myself and learned how to play it, after that .... no stealth for you XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masqava Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 You just need to get better, know the matchups better. Lyn Blade Dancer should only have a unfavorable matchup into Force Master I believe? I'm not sure though. The other ones should be advantage/neutral. And they can beat everything. They are the second best class in favorable matchups right now imo (Summoner being first only having difficulty against Destroyers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatari Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Yes i absolutely love it just because im not forced to play with others. Most likely this sounds that im basic noob who blames others but sadly im person who likes to play 1v1's and enjoy them just because i dont have to rely on teammates not screwing up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrKoquonfaes Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 No, I do not. Equalized stats mean jackshit if there isnt an equalized number of skill points, because that pretty much gives to everyone below 45 a huge disadvantage. As Lv45 HM5 KFM i feel bad for beating a lv30 assassin with much less skills than I do. They could do what TERA has been doing for a while, that is when you enter the "arena" everyone becomes lv65 with all the skills avaliable and are given time to spec them Also, pair people with playeds of their own level. I dont like to fight people 20 levels below me, its not fun and I am sure they think the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarii Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 i like it a lot till i fight a summoner then i wonder wtf im even doing playing game that allows this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huniverse Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 I mean this balanced...makes me feel so tryharder http://imgur.com/guEysm4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shar Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 11 hours ago, SrKoquonfaes said: No, I do not. Equalized stats mean jackshit if there isnt an equalized number of skill points, because that pretty much gives to everyone below 45 a huge disadvantage. As Lv45 HM5 KFM i feel bad for beating a lv30 assassin with much less skills than I do. They could do what TERA has been doing for a while, that is when you enter the "arena" everyone becomes lv65 with all the skills avaliable and are given time to spec them Also, pair people with playeds of their own level. I dont like to fight people 20 levels below me, its not fun and I am sure they think the same thing. Well, with my lv32 force master I'm currently 6-0, and the last 4 were lv45, so...if you're better, you can win, even against mirror matches with missing skills XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inmortalibus Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 13 hours ago, SrKoquonfaes said: No, I do not. Equalized stats mean jackshit if there isnt an equalized number of skill points, because that pretty much gives to everyone below 45 a huge disadvantage. As Lv45 HM5 KFM i feel bad for beating a lv30 assassin with much less skills than I do. They could do what TERA has been doing for a while, that is when you enter the "arena" everyone becomes lv65 with all the skills avaliable and are given time to spec them Also, pair people with playeds of their own level. I dont like to fight people 20 levels below me, its not fun and I am sure they think the same thing. Get 45 FIRST and stop whining LOOL, in this game you get 45 FAST compared to other mmos lol. And wtf is with people wanting to pvp at lower lvl? don't they realize they have fewer points? and they still cry lol facepalm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onene Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 @SrKoquonfaes it's not like that in tera. tera does the same, gives you equalized level/stats but you stay with the same skills, gear slots. you cant equip green crystals if your real gear doesnt have slots for them even tho in eq battlegrounds it shows the slots open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrKoquonfaes Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Inmortalibus said: Get 45 FIRST and stop whining LOOL, in this game you get 45 FAST compared to other mmos lol. And wtf is with people wanting to pvp at lower lvl? don't they realize they have fewer points? and they still cry lol facepalm. lv45 HM4, thank you very much. 19 minutes ago, Onene said: @SrKoquonfaes it's not like that in tera. tera does the same, gives you equalized level/stats but you stay with the same skills, gear slots. you cant equip green crystals if your real gear doesnt have slots for them even tho in eq battlegrounds it shows the slots open. Pretty sure you are given the rest of the skills. At least on my Lancer it happened, i got giga leash while being lv46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrKoquonfaes Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 So, you first call me anoob because you thought I wasnt lv45.. and then you tell me t ogo back to reality after clarifying that I was indeed HM4 (first one was a typo, my bad)? Way to backpedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inmortalibus Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, SrKoquonfaes said: lv45 HM5, thank you very much. Pretty sure you are given the rest of the skills. At least on my Lancer it happened, i got giga leash while being lv46 did i say with HM5? NO!!, not all people have HM5 lol, get back to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuchin Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 on topic: yes I am enjoying the arena very much. But I believe anyone who says they hate it, because it is a thing of personal psychology. Do you like challenges? Do you have (too) high expectations of yourself? Can you enjoy a defeat, if you played well? Do you play to be there, or only to get a rank? Do you get the rank you you think you need? Do you need a rank at all? How do others talk about arena and how makes that feel you? Do you play together with friends, do you play alone? all of these things and many more matter. For me, right now, I am having a blast. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vexe Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 it's addictive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrKoquonfaes Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, Shuchin said: on topic: yes I am enjoying the arena very much. But I believe anyone who says they hate it, because it is a thing of personal psychology. Do you like challenges? Do you have (too) high expectations of yourself? Can you enjoy a defeat, if you played well? Do you play to be there, or only to get a rank? Do you get the rank you you think you need? Do you need a rank at all? How do others talk about arena and how makes that feel you? Do you play together with friends, do you play alone? all of these things and many more matter. For me, right now, I am having a blast. ^_^ I prefer OW PvP, specially when you can 1v1. Because I can feel my effort paying off, I can see my hours upon hours grinding and collecting mats mark the difference between defeat and victory. I do not like arena because, as i said before, equalized gear means jackshit without an equal amount of skill points, and I do NOT enjoy fighting against a lv30 BM with 24 skill points less than me. Even in gold, there are many low level summoners and sin who dont really pose a threat for a KFM. The hassle of finding a decent challenge in arena outweight the rewards by alot. It's faster to just form a some kind of Fighting Club in OW PvP (Which I have seen happening several times) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, SrKoquonfaes said: I prefer OW PvP, specially when you can 1v1. Because I can feel my effort paying off, I can see my hours upon hours grinding and collecting mats mark the difference between defeat and victory. I do not like arena because, as i said before, equalized gear means jackshit without an equal amount of skill points, and I do NOT enjoy fighting against a lv30 BM with 24 skill points less than me. Even in gold, there are many low level summoners and sin who dont really pose a threat for a KFM. The hassle of finding a decent challenge in arena outweight the rewards by alot. It's faster to just form a some kind of Fighting Club in OW PvP (Which I have seen happening several times) then enjoy being lonely in your OW PVP and get gear carried. And HOW many low lvl players you met except some summoners? are you for real man, getting lvl 45 in 3-4 or even 5 lets say days its easy and then you can PVP and stop crying about your unequal skill points LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuchin Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 some of the lvl 30ies may be in for the kick to play against lvl 45ers and win one match in three, even if it might not be the match with you. I remember starting to arena with my KFM at lvl 25ish and I had a lot of fun. ^_^ Ranking is better than level to match up, and let's not forget there is match to match variability. We should not jump to conclusions like "what I stomped a lvl 30 in gold rank, they should not be allowed to be matched against me" "what I got stomped by a lvl 30? Nerf class XXX!" Have thought long and hard about B&S arena and still have not found anything that I want changed. ^_^ <-- happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrKoquonfaes Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 8 hours ago, Main said: then enjoy being lonely in your OW PVP and get gear carried. And HOW many low lvl players you met except some summoners? are you for real man, getting lvl 45 in 3-4 or even 5 lets say days its easy and then you can PVP and stop crying about your unequal skill points LOL. I prefer to be " gear carried" than be "so bad that I need help from the arena equalized system to even have a chance againts people" Mind you, my diamond rank isnt just there for shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matangi Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 This pvp complete trash as bm all class seems broken i manage to stay 1850 while lbm or destro spam Tab and reach plat ez Im gonna stop pvp if i go plat, if im plat now ima be fkg diamond lvl 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sygmaelle Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 atm its pretty bland / boring mostly because the combat system is way too simple and there's quite a few things missing for this to be a long lasting hit in the Esports scene, namely complexity and balance. With the upcoming release of the nerfed warlock which will still not be enough to counter summoners and whatnot, + the fact that nothing will truly be balanced until players unlock all the needed skills (meaning lvl 50 and hm books) ... yeah this is going to tank. You can already tell anyway by the number of bots present in arena, the lag not being fixed and how awfully done the patching management is. Shoulda released the game in its final state straight instead of giving a half botched one. Arena should not take in account any HM level at all and give all skill points straights instead. What's sad is that Ncsoft had in the past the perfect formula with GW 1, guess they lost it somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primula Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 On 24/02/2016 at 8:22 PM, Masqava said: You just need to get better, know the matchups better. Lyn Blade Dancer should only have a unfavorable matchup into Force Master I believe? I'm not sure though. The other ones should be advantage/neutral. And they can beat everything. They are the second best class in favorable matchups right now imo (Summoner being first only having difficulty against Destroyers) haha.... no As an FM, the only classes I have difficulty against are BD & BM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masqava Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 14 minutes ago, Primula said: haha.... no As an FM, the only classes I have difficulty against are BD & BM. It's just what I heard from another LBD, I could be wrong, I guess it's pretty even then. But yeah LBD is by no means an underpowered class, they're above average I'd say in learn curve-reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leihjir Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Imo its the best Arena PvP i've played ! The PvP is pretty balance compare to other mmo, the skill cap is huge and (Op) you've certainly played against players from the KR and RU version of the game this being said you will need more practice and better overall knoweldge of bns mechanics to enjoy Arena. Keep tryin hard it will pay ! But i can understand this is frustrating to get rapped on 1v1 match xD, like many dudes said it before, play and learn ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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