Hungri4animePusi Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 indeed, people said that fm is weakest class atm and after pvping as him alot its clear as a day, 1 knockup which is way too slow and easily avoided, only 1 evade exluding q e and frost shield which is absolutely stupid for the class relying on ranged attacks which can be reflected 24/7 by kfm bd lbm destro,oh ? disable their defence skills? good luck landing that x and waiting 30 sec for cd? what? you freezed enemy from distance? lolnope, they have cc removal dash or cc removal spin, oh unless its sin or summoner. fm specializes in distance attacks. Distance my fuking ass, every of those classes i mentioned can dash in across the map for easy stun and combo, and what can you do? waste upgraded tab? tough shit, get dashed in again followed by a combo again. cross my fingers that 50 lvl update will make this elo fodder of a class stand a chance against 1 combo slaughterfest. yes this is rant, born from frustration and unfairness which is ignored by useless company called ncsoft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilfing Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 FM is one of the best right now if used correctly. Troll or massive l2p issue. If you need help there are lots of youtube videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbunny Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 1shot winstreak to gold on lowbie fm During beta I had lotsa trouble with fm like 3-18 but I eventually changed playstyle and class became good. Just don't play fm like in pve where u mash buttons as fast as you can. Ur not necessary in hurry aplying freeze aswell. Just keep dem chilled. You mentioned kfm, bd and destro and their deflect.... all those have window where they are locked to animation when u can attack. Dont smash those button and wait Quote Troll or massive l2p issue Sry to say it to op but its that last one :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bvnksy Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I've played BnS for about a week, and im 43 on my FM right now at about 1700 rating, I am definitely having some L2P issues being that im so new, but i dont feel absolutely outclassed by anything, learn the combo, learn the animations of other classes, watch some Jaesung and you'll feel better about your class. If you want something more friendly as far as skillcap try summoner. Personally i wouldn't ever play anything but FM as I find the playstyle and the potential pretty amazing, stick with it and you will get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestbad Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Forcemaster is idd 1 of the best classes ATM ... its not coming from me ..but the world champion Jaesung who is a force master.... he had been asked about the best classes , and he picked 3... 1 of them was forcemaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanquishz Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 stop to complain, FMs are actually good, you just need hands and dont punch the keyboard with your head. you need to learn to play it and how to build it depending on who you're fighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutsuu Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Didn't a FM win the Imperial tournament last weekend, and have been in finals/semifinals every weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kensho1996 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 the melees you are having issues with are easy enough to deal with .. slow freeze and keep behind them .. BLOCK doesn't work from behind (or doesn't for me AS KFM) and as long as you are behind them they can't leap at you as they can't target you all you have to do then is stand behind them and plink them to death (IT IS VERY ANNOYING but it works) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justsomeone Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 ac 18 minutes ago, Kensho1996 said: the melees you are having issues with are easy enough to deal with .. slow freeze and keep behind them .. BLOCK doesn't work from behind (or doesn't for me AS KFM) and as long as you are behind them they can't leap at you as they can't target you all you have to do then is stand behind them and plink them to death (IT IS VERY ANNOYING but it works) actually op is right, fm is bad right now, you can't hit a good kfm and bm they will never let you hit them from behind, if you get too near to Q and E they will make you face the ground with CC and they can just SS to get unfreeze and jump at you, for some reason some people are blocking even from behind, maybe hackers... but at 50 with H.M skills they will be good because fm will get Anti defense tools so you can get a chance to attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caffynated Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Dragon Char and Dragon Whorl pierce deflect by default. Snow Ball can be specced to turn off enemy defenses and disable them for 6 seconds. Aerial Phantom Grip can be specced to disable defense for 6 seconds Phantom Grip and Aerial Phantom Grip pierce defense. Dragon Frost, Duel Dragons, Short Fuse, Fire Fury, and Fire Storm pierce deflect Ice Coil, Heat Wave and Ring of Fire pierces defense and deflect You have the tools. Learn to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutsuu Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Justsomeone said: ac actually op is right, fm is bad right now, you can't hit a good kfm and bm they will never let you hit them from behind, if you get too near to Q and E they will make you face the ground with CC and they can just SS to get unfreeze and jump at you, for some reason some people are blocking even from behind, maybe hackers... but at 50 with H.M skills they will be good because fm will get Anti defense tools so you can get a chance to attack Please tell this guy to stop beating the best KFMs around. He's making you look bad: http://www.twitch.tv/impbns/v/48399012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatHead Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The best part of Force Masters being super good is that they seem weakest against the weakest class, the poor Blade Master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinders Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 actually KatHead, the best part of FM being super good that you perceive is that they are just way better players. YOMI plays massive role in matches. it is crazy that yoni and yomi are so close to each other, both have same philosophies in a way. that one letter changes everything though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawltack Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Wrong. Blade Master is the weakest class overall at the moment. You need to learn to play your class. It is factually not an issue with Force Master, it's 100% you. Practice, L2P, get gud, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oishii Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 FM is probably pretty strong, though they are probably 2nd to BM in most difficult to play. (BM being harder because they suck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udunnome Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 16/2 in arena, gold rank just by doing 3 matches/ day for quest. Both losses against BM, I would have probably won if I'd know the opposite class gameplay better. Rest just spamming nukes,CC and dodges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duniak Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 14 hours ago, Bestbad said: Forcemaster is idd 1 of the best classes ATM ... its not coming from me ..but the world champion Jaesung who is a force master.... he had been asked about the best classes , and he picked 3... 1 of them was forcemaster Yeah, on different patch with more skills, HM skills and balance patches. Soooo, you can stay quiet with Jeasung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamein Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 FM weakest class. Someone go tell Bevv his class sucks. 49 wins zero losses to diamond. FM's are pretty strong after the last patch, if they are played well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxeWife Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 My SM is platinum and I usually have no issues with most classes, except those enlighted players that completely roll me over by doing things none of the others usually do. I can tell you I was DESTROYED by a FM the other day. The MOFO pushed me off petals every single time. Froze me facing the other way and the damn ss has a HUGE cd. Every time he did that he would hit me. If I still had chi and managed to stealth he would go for the cat. Id Q the cat, he would freeze me backwards again, etc etc. I have no damn clue wth he did but that ONE fm gave me no chance at all. So FMs arent bad, you just need to check other classes skills and know their abilities and specially their cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutsuu Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 7 hours ago, Jamein said: FM weakest class. Someone go tell Bevv his class sucks. 49 wins zero losses to diamond. FM's are pretty strong after the last patch, if they are played well. Yeah what the heck is up with Bevv and Madoshi trampling people's feelings like that. Both going and winning tournaments and dominating the leaderboards. It's just not fair to those who want to blame their inadequacies on the class they play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawltack Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 9 hours ago, Kutsuu said: Yeah what the heck is up with Bevv and Madoshi trampling people's feelings like that. Both going and winning tournaments and dominating the leaderboards. It's just not fair to those who want to blame their inadequacies on the class they play. Seriously, I think they should be banned for that. Who do they think they are? Providing concrete, incontrovertible evidence that their class is not weak at all and disproving whiny forum-goers is just plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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