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Force Master - Slashimi (4 man)

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Hello all. I know that as a force master I should be able to divine veil through the water missile AND then frost sheath (the whole party) through boiling water. I feel silly asking this, but I can't seem to time my frost sheath properly (sometimes I get lucky) in 4 man Blackram. Would you guys happen to have any pointers? I don't know what I am doing wrong. Perhaps, I don't quite understand the ability. As soon as I use the ability, there is a three second window in which we must take damage? Or does the ice block portion of frost sheath only last 3 seconds? Anyways, thank you all! 

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dmoe33   

It procs when you take dmg (you can see this easily in pvp) and you have a 3s window to take dmg, if u do take dmg anytime in that 3s window ull be in a frost prison for 5s (its been changed with recent patch from 3-5). What i do to time it for slashimi is when hes gonna do the boiling att he moves up and down 3 times and the move comes out on the 3rd time (kinda looks like belly flops if i were to describe it) i usually do it when his belly turns glowly red right before he the move comes out on the 4rd "belly flop"

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LagunaL8   
3 hours ago, Pinkhearts said:

Hello all. I know that as a force master I should be able to divine veil through the water missile AND then frost sheath (the whole party) through boiling water. I feel silly asking this, but I can't seem to time my frost sheath properly (sometimes I get lucky) in 4 man Blackram. Would you guys happen to have any pointers? I don't know what I am doing wrong. Perhaps, I don't quite understand the ability. As soon as I use the ability, there is a three second window in which we must take damage? Or does the ice block portion of frost sheath only last 3 seconds? Anyways, thank you all! 

MAAANNN i had trouble with that too... lol

 

24 man = just SPAM the lolspacebar at the 1cm color mark. No brainer.

 

Ok here on maybe pple have their own way of doing this, this is jus how i do it ><

6 man = You want your LAST attk to be frost mode. (cant remember if the buttons need to be 'active' aka not disappear. The skill bar disappears after 10sec of non usage)

then spam that space >.>

 

4 man = You want your LAST attk to be frost mode. I keep my #3 open (Dragonwhorl) and use that after the boss gets untargetable. I dont use glacial beam cause that actually needs a target and you cant target the boss when hes doing that skill (and most groups kill off the adds) After skill#3 you got 10 sec before the ZXCV keys disappear, so dont shoot it too early.

After that its just the timing. Its the same timing for the 24/6/4 man. 

Viel when he looks like hes taking that bird bath. > Bounce > SplishSplash sideways birdBath move

 

(below: To answer your main question yes, you need to take dmg within that 3 second window to freeze yourself/party.)

2 seconds later he looks like hes trying to burrow the water. The floats and looks like he has a muscle spasm with his wing tips curled and all

You want to aim your sheath right about after hes done burrowing but before he starts floating up

<,< timing can be practiced in the 24 man mode when you know you wont kill people lol

 

 

Edited by LagunaL8

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Tsunakai   
15 hours ago, LagunaL8 said:

MAAANNN i had trouble with that too... lol

 

 

 

4 man = You want your LAST attk to be frost mode. I keep my #3 open (Dragonwhorl) and use that after the boss gets untargetable. I dont use glacial beam cause that actually needs a target and you cant target the boss when hes doing that skill (and most groups kill off the adds) After skill#3 you got 10 sec before the ZXCV keys disappear, so dont shoot it too early.

After that its just the timing. Its the same timing for the 24/6/4 man. 

Viel when he looks like hes taking that bird bath. > Bounce > SplishSplash sideways birdBath move

 

 

 

Frost step bro, frost step puts you in frost form, as does blaze into fire form, that's what I use, then I can still use glacial beam.

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I'd like to ask a question related to the topic, how does a FM block slashimi so that it will flop out of his swimming animation? (I feel stupid for asking, but I need to know)

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LagunaL8   
8 hours ago, Tsunakai said:

Frost step bro, frost step puts you in frost form, as does blaze into fire form, that's what I use, then I can still use glacial beam.

oh yeah forgot to mention i put the frost/fire step together on my mouse lol. Im lazy like that.

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On 2/19/2016 at 5:37 PM, dmoe33 said:

It procs when you take dmg (you can see this easily in pvp) and you have a 3s window to take dmg, if u do take dmg anytime in that 3s window ull be in a frost prison for 5s (its been changed with recent patch from 3-5). What i do to time it for slashimi is when hes gonna do the boiling att he moves up and down 3 times and the move comes out on the 3rd time (kinda looks like belly flops if i were to describe it) i usually do it when his belly turns glowly red right before he the move comes out on the 4rd "belly flop"

 

WoW, I was trying to look for a sign similar to this. You really did your homework. Thank you very much. I will look for this next time. :)

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On 2/20/2016 at 6:47 PM, LagunaL8 said:

MAAANNN i had trouble with that too... lol

 

24 man = just SPAM the lolspacebar at the 1cm color mark. No brainer.

 

Ok here on maybe pple have their own way of doing this, this is jus how i do it ><

6 man = You want your LAST attk to be frost mode. (cant remember if the buttons need to be 'active' aka not disappear. The skill bar disappears after 10sec of non usage)

then spam that space >.>

 

4 man = You want your LAST attk to be frost mode. I keep my #3 open (Dragonwhorl) and use that after the boss gets untargetable. I dont use glacial beam cause that actually needs a target and you cant target the boss when hes doing that skill (and most groups kill off the adds) After skill#3 you got 10 sec before the ZXCV keys disappear, so dont shoot it too early.

After that its just the timing. Its the same timing for the 24/6/4 man. 

Viel when he looks like hes taking that bird bath. > Bounce > SplishSplash sideways birdBath move

 

(below: To answer your main question yes, you need to take dmg within that 3 second window to freeze yourself/party.)

2 seconds later he looks like hes trying to burrow the water. The floats and looks like he has a muscle spasm with his wing tips curled and all

You want to aim your sheath right about after hes done burrowing but before he starts floating up

<,< timing can be practiced in the 24 man mode when you know you wont kill people lol

 

 

 

 

This clears up a lot of uncertainty. I feel noob for admitting this, but I had no idea that my last ability has to be one that keeps/puts me in frost mode/stance. I assumed that the game binds Divine veil and then Frost Sheath to my space bar. But, that is probably just 24 and 6 man, right? I will try this, I never noticed that he burrows after his four water bolts. So, I should time it like such: Four water bolts (divine veil), burrows after water bolts, when he appears to stop burrowing and has wing spasms (lol) I should sheath here. This is correct? 

 

Thank you very much for your detailed response, I am so glad to hear others are having a hard time. I want to run 4-man, but I've shied away for fear that I would mess this up. >.< 

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dmoe33   
18 minutes ago, Pinkhearts said:

 

WoW, I was trying to look for a sign similar to this. You really did your homework. Thank you very much. I will look for this next time. :)

Just running through something enough times and paying attention to little details^^. Glad i helped!

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LagunaL8   
5 hours ago, Pinkhearts said:

 

 

This clears up a lot of uncertainty. I feel noob for admitting this, but I had no idea that my last ability has to be one that keeps/puts me in frost mode/stance. I assumed that the game binds Divine veil and then Frost Sheath to my space bar. But, that is probably just 24 and 6 man, right? I will try this, I never noticed that he burrows after his four water bolts. So, I should time it like such: Four water bolts (divine veil), burrows after water bolts, when he appears to stop burrowing and has wing spasms (lol) I should sheath here. This is correct? 

 

Thank you very much for your detailed response, I am so glad to hear others are having a hard time. I want to run 4-man, but I've shied away for fear that I would mess this up. >.< 

yea full space bar is 24man, 6man is space bar w/frost mode up, 4man is no space usage all manual.

Its hard to notice his moves at first cause its easy to panic. Sheath as he burrows. When hes in the air i think that was the 'too late' zone.

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Dlacik   

I find it much easier to time correctly the divine veil. Then I just look at frost stance buff timer and use frost sheath just before frost stance ends.

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Teffy   

Easy E to open vail,3 to open for ice V.When the boss rise up after ranged attacks use ice V and you will be fine.

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Aventa   
On 2/20/2016 at 3:09 PM, YonHyakuNiju said:

I'd like to ask a question related to the topic, how does a FM block slashimi so that it will flop out of his swimming animation? (I feel stupid for asking, but I need to know)

 

Your fire stance tab skill can be specced to a parry using 3 points into the third tree, with that spec using tab right as the boss starts to dash around will knock him out of his dash....and looks awesome doing it. xD For the main question when the boss jumps up use e if not in ice stance and then your shield, at this point if you think you may lose your ice status before using frost sheath you can use your ice tab to extend it and recover some focus. Timing frost sheath is actually pretty simple, after the boss spits he slowly rises up while lifting his arms, when his fin...arm...flippers rise to about the length of his head that's when you hit v.

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