Justsomeone Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 i was looking at bnstree and i saw that warlock has more CC/HEAL/DMG /BLOCKS/ESCAPES AND A PET!! is warlock better in every aspect or it's just in theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherEli Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 How many escapes? Cause my FM has 5 all at quite a low cooldown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justsomeone Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 1 minute ago, AnotherEli said: How many escapes? Cause my FM has 5 all at quite a low cooldown. what are you counting as escapes? because Force master has only 2 real escapes, tab and S S if you spec it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherEli Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 You mean stun escapes? Cause I consider root escapes and damage escapes to count as well. Q E SS Ice block/sheath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangpicky Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 It's more like what BMs have been dreaming of. You can block frontal attacks, provide great DPS output, able to tank for some time with your resist buffs and pet, provide support for party in healing/resist/awakened skills, better self-healing, ranged DPS etc.. Goodbye summoners, Warlocks are our new MUST have class for party. Way better support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmaogg Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 not to mention their ridiculous burst.. made them won the 2015 championship. Pains me when our dear JaeJae got rekt and couldn't do anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remlnx Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, clangpicky said: It's more like what BMs have been dreaming of. You can block frontal attacks, provide great DPS output, able to tank for some time with your resist buffs and pet, provide support for party in healing/resist/awakened skills, better self-healing, ranged DPS etc.. Goodbye summoners, Warlocks are our new MUST have class for party. Way better support. I wonder if this is true for the EU/NA version, it's well known we are getting a nerfed version of the warlock, so it will have less potential compared to the Asian warlock we have played on TW/JP servers. Still have to see what they will nerf, probably dps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangpicky Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Remlnx said: I wonder if this is true for the EU/NA version, it's well known we are getting a nerfed version of the warlock, so it will have less potential compared to the Asian warlock we have played on TW/JP servers. Still have to see what they will nerf, probably dps. The nerf didn't really change much for PvE part I heard, just on PvP side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggyman Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Warlocks are not just "Better force masters" They are an entirely different class. FMs still output more damage, and can still spike higher than a warlock can, especially with the balance patch. But again, if you want to just call every caster with a pet better than every caster that doesn't have one, you're not really being fair. Nothing in a warlock's skillset makes them significantly better OR worse than a FM. Better sustainability, sure, but that's only if you NEED sustainability, FMs in particular are fantastic at zero damage kills. I can and do stay alive just as long as any other class. In fact, as I tend to end up pulling agro because of my damage output, I am often forced to be the target of the boss, but I don't feel any less capable of it than any other class, even tanks. Play style, skill, and understanding your opponents will make you better or worse than the person next to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remlnx Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Just now, clangpicky said: The nerf didn't really change much for PvE part I heard, just on PvP side. I doubt they can manage to "fix" the pvp leaving untouched the pve, if they lower the burst/dps it will affect both pve and pvp, unless they change some defensive mechanic, but the warlock is broken for the dps/burst so it's where they have to change something. (just think, a warlock lvl 10 can crit for over 2000 with double dragons, on EU/NA any other class must be over lvl 20 to get that amount) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragoaskani Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 22 minutes ago, Remlnx said: I doubt they can manage to "fix" the pvp leaving untouched the pve, if they lower the burst/dps it will affect both pve and pvp, unless they change some defensive mechanic, but the warlock is broken for the dps/burst so it's where they have to change something. (just think, a warlock lvl 10 can crit for over 2000 with double dragons, on EU/NA any other class must be over lvl 20 to get that amount) They didnt lower the burst, they lowered all the self healing. Class is very squishy as a result, still wreks face if you can stay alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strindberg Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 No because Warlock wishes they could pull off FM tier dps :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justsomeone Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 7 hours ago, Strindberg said: No because Warlock wishes they could pull off FM tier dps :P don't look like because all of warlock skills have multipliers of 10+ in his skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppy Pie Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 lol I wish we had polls in the forums FM or Warlock for best DPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjae Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 For those who have played Warlock, this might be an insight: http://www.bladeandsouldojo.com/topic/135576-december-2015-kr-patch-notes-still-want-to-play/ For those who didnt play Warlock, just frikken wait for the class release and stop making false assumptions. Sure you can go ahead and look at the skilltrees, but that doesnt give you an actual clue how to class itself is to be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocdog Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 It's a fun class, but I had no more problems leveling my current FM than I had with my pre-nerf WL. WL will not make winners out of losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhokdelar180 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 9 hours ago, dragoaskani said: They didnt lower the burst, they lowered all the self healing. Class is very squishy as a result, still wreks face if you can stay alive. I am sorry to disagree, but the damage reduction on some of the skills did indeed lower the burst as compared to before and the main dps skill is the twin dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppy Pie Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 the only down fall for me about warlock is the char restriction unlike FM buuuuuut will I still play WL over FM... yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavTH Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 As playing withWarlock, DPS/TANK is far more superior than any other classes in PvE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragoaskani Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 15 hours ago, Rhokdelar180 said: I am sorry to disagree, but the damage reduction on some of the skills did indeed lower the burst as compared to before and the main dps skill is the twin dragons. Well I was just looking at the korean leaderboards at http://bns.plaync.com/bs/leaderboard/duel There are currently 7 warlocks in top 50, 12 in top 100, and 64 in top 500. This is post nerf, so I think we will be just fine. Warlock = 주술사 if you didnt know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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