iMav Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 On an immobile boss who has 5 million hp, which class (when played absolutely perfectly) would do more damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiuyu Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Assassin probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpawaa Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 With proper skill build FMs have highest dmg in both PVE and PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMav Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 I actually went and looked a bunch up about this (idk why I didn't before posting) but it looks like assassin is the top raw dps class, with the close second sometimes first being summoner rather than force-master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambition Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, iMav said: I actually went and looked a bunch up about this (idk why I didn't before posting) but it looks like assassin is the top raw dps class, with the close second sometimes first being summoner rather than force-master. whut about warlock:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMav Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 I only found stuff about current NA but it seems like warlock is less solo DPS but has access to very powerful group buffs making it a better class to take to 4/6 mans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiul Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Atm FM with propper build is a king of DPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okitaluc Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Assassin is melee , he will have to deal with lot more bullshit than FM and thats a bigger problem dps wise, if it's a dummy FM still win tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tykea Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, Sergiul said: Atm FM with propper build is a king of DPS Nope, sorry. Assassin outperforms FM by A LOT, if he doesn't have to deal with too much AoE crap. Coming from someone who plays Assassin and Force Master :) The damage output of Assassins is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpawaa Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 12 hours ago, Tykea said: Nope, sorry. Assassin outperforms FM by A LOT, if he doesn't have to deal with too much AoE crap. Coming from someone who plays Assassin and Force Master :) The damage output of Assassins is insane. Maybe you don't really know how to build FM, do you? perma burn and F double dmg is unbeatable by any class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amkatar Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 If it is indeed an immobile, non-attacking target, Destroyer wins. Ani-cancel for around 7k DPS on average, with Fury bursts at around 16k DPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glowinthedark Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 46 minutes ago, iMav said: I actually went and looked a bunch up about this (idk why I didn't before posting) but it looks like assassin is the top raw dps class, with the close second sometimes first being summoner rather than force-master. never seen assasin get an aggro so i must say asssasin is a garbage in terms of pvp and pve gayish class evah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkshana Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Assassin is probably the most dmg if you know how to stack poison from resistance and dagger throw. I'm using profane right now and my F key hits for 8k at 5 stack of poison. Since I know how to time my counter and evade I can stack 5 poison without spit and hold aggro. Destroyer is debatable to have more dmg but they have to grab in a group fight so they can't attack about 33% of the time. I do like to mention People do not like Assassin in groups. If a Assassin Hold aggro in a boss fight it becomes chaotic. Poharan for example will throw granade at multiple person random if Assassin goes into stealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keawen Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I would say summoner would outperform but between sin and fm my sin beat fm at least 2 if not 3 to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tykea Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mpawaa said: Maybe you don't really know how to build FM, do you? perma burn and F double dmg is unbeatable by any class. Except for hitting 3-4 times A SECOND with heartstab, while having 100% critical hit chance, thus hitting for 5k with each heartstab. And yeah, you can do that all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpawaa Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 12 hours ago, Tykea said: Except for hitting 3-4 times A SECOND with heartstab, while having 100% critical hit chance, thus hitting for 5k with each heartstab. And yeah, you can do that all day long. F shoots 1800-2000 dmg each shoot and it shoots 5 times in 1.5 second. X crits 16k. (2) hits over 5k... what else are u looking for? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordLokai Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Force master will do more damage in PvE and PvP for same reasons that ranged dps always do, they have well range. While other classes are dodging cones, and timing counters, you can sit back and spam attacks. I easily and i mean easily out pace most people in dungeon content ( judging by aggro but alot that goes into that but since no dps meter its all i can guess at) do to simple fact i am never in any real danger. I stand back and spam my attacks and i'm not even fire spec... i imagine a good fire FM is going to make people explode super easy, and out pace most any other class because while you are setting up skill strikes avoiding danger i can simply do damage. Assassin in optimal conditions SHOULD out pace a forcemaster but because most fights require mobility and dodging i'll wager this is why they are not as high as a force master. On top of this FM have some really nice group utility with there shield which is so very very useful. Though that said... i enjoy my KFM way more then my FM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tykea Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Mpawaa said: F shoots 1800-2000 dmg each shoot and it shoots 5 times in 1.5 second. X crits 16k. (2) hits over 5k... what else are u looking for? :D That's still a lot less than Assassins are capable of, because everytime you hit with heartstab you can use your lightning pierce, which hits for 4-5k aswell. Try it out, trust me, its a lot more than any FM does. The only pro about FM is that he is ranged and doesn't have to deal with all those nasty AoE damages, but on a "dummy", Assassins win this DPS fight easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpawaa Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 On 2/8/2016 at 5:35 AM, Tykea said: That's still a lot less than Assassins are capable of, because everytime you hit with heartstab you can use your lightning pierce, which hits for 4-5k aswell. Try it out, trust me, its a lot more than any FM does. The only pro about FM is that he is ranged and doesn't have to deal with all those nasty AoE damages, but on a "dummy", Assassins win this DPS fight easily. Whatever, you can freely think whatever you want but that doesn't make untrue a true. You can google or ask experienced players which class does most raw damage and answer will always be FM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Not to deviate off topic, but even with force master and sin dps... would summoner / warlock not be considered for top tier? Comparing my LBD + Summoner, I was surprised my summoner was doing considerably more and consistent damage -.-" I play with 9 ms... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArsenal Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 On 2/8/2016 at 5:31 PM, LordLokai said: Force master will do more damage in PvE and PvP for same reasons that ranged dps always do, they have well range. And not just range, but are mobile while at range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
843619_1452550141 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Assassin would do more, in pvp without stealth then FM. But assassins can pretty much solo any boss except for the talus camp in misty woods. That's the line draw. And it's only the field bosses like BW and Vermillion ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justsomeone Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Force master can't out damage summoners and destroyers at pve, at pvp they have the worst damage of all because they can't 100-0 in 3 sec like a destroyer and can't 100-50 like a cat grab combo of a summoner and can't 100-50 like a bd and all their hits get resisted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tykea Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 On 9.2.2016 at 3:39 AM, Mpawaa said: Whatever, you can freely think whatever you want but that doesn't make untrue a true. You can google or ask experienced players which class does most raw damage and answer will always be FM. I like how FM got a HUGE damage buff, because their damage was way too low, and Assassins are still considered to be the strongest single target damage class :) https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/topic/176129-dps/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azraelkun Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Are u actually compare a real class(sin) with pew pew kid no skill classes come on ppl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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