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8 minutes ago, NinjaZombie said:

guys in the end its a rng box that costs money, its up to you if you want to buy them or not, its not forcing you to

I think its the practice more than anything that's disgusting.

 

Nobody is saying they should give everything away freely.

 

People would spend money on the outfit alone, they are just milking more money off of people via a gamble box. You could pay a flat rate for the outfit and the company makes money or they could sell it to you in a box that's cheaper than the outfit and you might get it cheaper or you might spend more.

 

Guess what though, the house never loses.

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Cetra   
17 minutes ago, Syko said:

From 3 boxes I got:

6x soulstones

2x Element of Luck

1x Lucky Jewel

7x Unsealing Charm

3x Key

3x Lucky Healing Tonic

 

I'm pretty sure that's a lot more than what I'd ever get from trying to sell items.

TBH, not worth.  But really, that's fine you got stuff.  The problem is 1- Gambling is scum, 2- Putting items that crash the economy in RNG boxes is also scum.

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Tanimo   

as a white knight im throwing in my towel.. i been betrayed with this rng box this is the first step towards the wrong direction they promised to not take A.K.A they will continue to do anything to milk our wallets with stuff like this

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Ninfu   

WAste of money those boxes and should have never ever put there. Having rng boxes for cosmetic stuff would be much interesting and fun but now those items that can be obtained trough just playing 10minutes of game is horrible idea

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Sync   

Not like everyone wasn't complaining about everything anyway... What did they have to lose?

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Dear OP

 

 

You know that they said they where adding RNG boxes a LONG LONG LONG time ago right....

What did you think they where lying??

 

I HATE RNG boxes, but I knew it was coming so no surprise

Edited by Puppy Pie

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Korene   
1 minute ago, Poeticintellect said:

dear fellow players. asian game companies think westerners are Retarded. this isnt new lol

Rightfully so NA is known for our consumerism we CONSUME we throw money! Not all of us but a mass majority we throw large amounts of money for silly things. Look at the lotteries... we know we won't win but people spin their whole check at dog tracks and casinos. We are wasteful, but not today we will not encourage ncsoft to bring more rng boxes! WE ARE SMART BUYERS GUYS!

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Tanimo   

well plebs did complain about the 1600 price on outfits they lowered it to 1200 wardrobe stayed prem they didnt really change much and still added rng for cash grabbing

 

 

let see next up is p2w gear when will we get the legendary in the nc shop?

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Hongmoon   

Doesn't matter if the stuff inside isn't worth it. There will be people who will spend hundreds to get the costume, and in turn ruin the market because they got too much of everything else in the process.

 

Remember, shills don't need a valid reason. They'll just say whatever is necessary to make the company look not as bad.

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Korene   
2 minutes ago, Puppy Pie said:

Dear OP

 

 

You know that they said they where adding RNG boxes a LONG LONG LONG time ago right....

What did you think they where lying??

 

I HATE RNG boxes, but I knew it was coming so no surprise

I knew but things can change! Like with the character bind items they are working on a solution will they hit right into the ballpark NO! But they are trying and they are listening. The same can happen with these RNG boxes if people just hold their horses and not jump on the boxes like hungry pandas. I know this is NCSOFT aka money hungry but this is new NCSOFT i believe they can change. They don't have to be like PWE and NEXON they can have respect for themselves!

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Yeon   

Hahahaha. This is very convenient for me. I was actually about to spend some $ on this game, but after seeing that box I bought skins in Heroes of the Storm. At least Blizzard doesn't attempt to shove an RNG box into my face. :3 Here, Blizzard, have my money~

 

Next thing we'll be seeing how they remove the transformation stones from crafting. 8D

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Foxy   

We need server wide messages displayed in the middle of the screen showcasing who got what from RNG Box (see example)

 

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Lens flare for extra coolness

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1 minute ago, Korene said:

Rightfully so NA is known for our consumerism we CONSUME we throw money! Not all of us but a mass majority we throw large amounts of money for silly things. Look at the lotteries... we know we won't win but people spin their whole check at dog tracks and casinos. We are wasteful, but not today we will not encourage ncsoft to bring more rng boxes! WE ARE SMART BUYERS GUYS!

im not one to waste money on anything i dont need to survive  but i do know people who spend any amount of money to get what they want. systems like this play on profiting on peoples consumer addictions. via gambling like systems. which results on them spending $300 for a horse lore in age of wushu an stuff like that. which wouldnt make sense to anyone in the general public.

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Rahaya   

What was the argument again? 'Need to make money somewhere because it isn't P2W like other regions?' 

 

You mean regions like Japan who's only 'P2W' feature is soulstones in the cash shop?

Regions like Taiwan who's 'P2W' feature is RNG boxes with crafting items, keys and transformation stones? Gems maybe, things that are obtainable in game but easier to RNG buy? After all, if you can get it in game as well then selling it can't possibly be P2W, right?

Regions like China, maybe? Or Korea that is P2P?

 

How interesting.

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1 minute ago, Korene said:

I knew but things can change! Like with the character bind items they are working on a solution will they hit right into the ballpark NO! But they are trying and they are listening. The same can happen with these RNG boxes if people just hold their horses and not jump on the boxes like hungry pandas. I know this is NCSOFT aka money hungry but this is new NCSOFT i believe they can change. They don't have to be like PWE and NEXON they can have respect for themselves!

Don't hold your breath.

There are already fish biting at the bait and boy are they reeling them in.

 

I say be prepared to say good bye to all the costumes you wish to buy straight out of the store and say hello to chances... because they are following in the footsteps of Archeage->Tera->Aion

 

I hope you bought all the costumes you really wanted because you can say bye bye to them soon until they all come back as boxes later on

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Lunaus   
10 minutes ago, ElectricPotato said:

Not in the hongmo store... such low drops of hongmo coins... sadness

Once the currency exchange is release you can buy them with in-game gold depending on the price when it first releases. However dunno when NCSoft decides to install it because they think the economy isn't ready yet.

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Faline   

Never bought the rng boxes for costumes on TERA, and I won't be buying them here either. If I want a costume badly enough I will pay pretty much whatever price is asked for it, within reason. This is real money for a bunch of pixels here, let's be honest, anyone who throws money at rng boxes for the chance of a costume either has more money than sense or is stupid. I don't like gambling away hard earned cash, however, if you guarantee me an item which I am paying for, it rests alot easier with me.

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Myleina   
4 minutes ago, Lunaus said:

Once the currency exchange is release you can buy them with in-game gold depending on the price when it first releases. However dunno when NCSoft decides to install it because they think the economy isn't ready yet.

Currency exchange will be giving hongmoon coins, not nccoins.

 

Player A puts NCCoins on sale.
Player B buys X coins (they're converted to hongmoon coins)

Player A receives X gold from player B.

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Zira   

I will not buy *any* RNG Boxes. if I want something I will buy it outright, or I will not buy it at all.

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Thoron   

As the title states, do not buy the RNG boxes. 

 

I am not a conspiracy theorist or hate the game or for whatever reason. I am simply a concerned consumer/gamer. 

 

Before anything i want to state I that personally believe these RNG boxes target a vulnerable demographic , but this is my personal opinion that is solely based on my observations , therefore I can not defend it on a larger scale.

 

Please before you make any purchases that are RNG based, please read this artical.

 

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/22/nexon-ncsoft-refuse-to-fully-cooperate-with-south-korean-mmo-ga/

 

The TL;DR version is that ncsoft has some very anti consumer traits by refusing to comply with an investigation in regards to the RNG payouts.. They do not want to reveal chance(%) you have of actually getting these items.

 

Please do not forget that if you are paying for anything in this game it makes you a consumer. You should fully know the percentage of getting what you pay for. It is ur right as a consumer! 

 

How would you feel if you went to go buy a new gpu or a box of chocolates and instead of the desired item you you instead recivied  a note that simple said "better luck next time bruh, here is some junk." That is what these boxes are.

 

We as a community should demand to have the desired payouts separate , or if ncsoft insists on selling them as they are,  they should have the percentages listed.

 

If you disagree with me that's fine, I just want to have my fellow gamers fully understand what will happen if they buy these boxes. It's a slippery slop and you can not trust ncsoft with ur money when it comes to this kinda thing.

 

I encourage you to read the article.

 

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Just now, Lunaus said:

You needed to make a new thread why? Do you not read stickies?

how many thread are there now about the RNG boxes ..

 

I think i am going to go play the game this is frustrating ;)

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Korene   
7 minutes ago, Puppy Pie said:

Don't hold your breath.

There are already fish biting at the bait and boy are they reeling them in.

 

I say be prepared to say good bye to all the costumes you wish to buy straight out of the store and say hello to chances... because they are following in the footsteps of Archeage->Tera->Aion

 

I hope you bought all the costumes you really wanted because you can say bye bye to them soon until they all come back as boxes later on

Well I'm gonna try anyway, if that doesn't work I will know who ncsoft truly is and I will no longer support them. I'm not gonna put monthly money in to a company who do nasty things like this. I'll just join the f2p side and buy costumes every now and then.

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