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Ardnaxela

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i think its dumb to try to kill the cat, just make him unconcious , for 30 sec, and focus on the summoner during this time, try to not let the sumoner going close to the cat, or you will hit the cat, and woke up back, after the 30sec, if the sumoner is not dead, just redo the same thing on the cat, and focus the sumonner again. It took more than 1 minute to kill a cat, and it took a lot of focus to do so, but making them unconcious took 5 second, and cost 3 focus.

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8 minutes ago, Brainy said:

Looks like another player trying to show off his winning streak on his low lvl char against new players. The reason why they lose is because they don't know how to play, nevermind the fact that they attack the cat.

How do you show off a win streak with summoner?

 

Its actually a serious question and its kinda 3am atm so sorry for a spur of the moment post.

 

Also new players? Half of the people I fought were 30+ with a few 45s. (Which makes this more depressing....)

 

Mostly this is just me being surprised that people would go after cat and fail horribly.

 

Well anyway you wont 'believe' me anyway. High horse so high~

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20 minutes ago, 848742_1452550186 said:

If we kill the cat you can't do anything at all. Killing the cat is a free win, but if we go for you then its 50/50.

Killed the cat a few times. Still failed horribly and lost. Cat isn't worth 80% of your hp to get.

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2 minutes ago, Ardnaxela said:

1. How do you show off a win streak with summoner?

 

2. Its actually a serious question and its kinda 3am atm so sorry for a spur of the moment post.

 

3. Also new players? Half of the people I fought were 30+ with a few 45s. (Which makes this more depressing....)

 

4. Mostly this is just me being surprised that people would go after cat and fail horribly.

 

5. Well anyway you wont 'believe' me anyway. High horse so high~

1. Just like you did in this post.

 

2. It's ok, nobody said you weren't serious.

 

3. By "new players" I mean players new to the game, the ones that played it for a few days. You can get lvl 30 as a complete noob in a couple of days, lvl 45 in less than a week, during which time they might have never played arena.

 

4. It shouldn't be a surprise, killing the cat is a valid tactic.

 

5. Just when did I say or even implied that I don believe you ? I'm not on a "high horse" but you do sound like you're just showing off.

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As an assassin killing the cat and then killing the summoner is the best tactic. Basically you play a "pve build" with heavy focus on stealth to RMB-F down the cat and Shadow Drain to refresh stealth on poisoned enemies, after that the summoners are an easy kill.

 

To counter your Doom n' Bloom we run Lotus Fury on T3F1 as to heal off it and Smoke Bomb T3F1 to be able to PvE down your cat out of stealth without you doing much damage to us til we can refresh the stealth. So far its working quite well but you have to play quite smart or you'll end up dead.

 

Yesterday was a lot of practice against summoners, at 1900 elo I had 12 summoners, 2 destroyers, 2 blade dancers, 1 kung fu master and 1 assassin lol

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People assume killing the cat is right. I'm a summoner myself but a SMART summoner will counter that.

 

I also stay half way to my pet, when someone focuses my pet I tell it to go into defensive mode and start absorbing hp as well. Then I'll snare someone fire off a sunflower before having my cat knock them into the air cause my thorns also daze. After they hit the ground my cat hits them with a hammer again making them dazed then I knock them into the air again and cat does another play time in air. When they hit ground again I'm using bloom of doom whenever it pops up and launching sunflowers like a boss.

 

not every summoner is going to allow you to hurt their cat. My personal favorites to fight are Sins and force masters. (Which side note one force master managed to kill my pet, but I threw my petal storm and summoned my cat cause all they did was spam spells hitting the air lol...)

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5 hours ago, 848742_1452550186 said:

If we kill the cat you can't do anything at all. Killing the cat is a free win, but if we go for you then its 50/50.

I let my cat die all the time so I can win. The thing is annoying when it basically feeds your opponent hp and focus because it doesn't stop attacking even if you spam Q or E.

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7 hours ago, Kahima said:

i think its dumb to try to kill the cat, just make him unconcious , for 30 sec, and focus on the summoner during this time, try to not let the sumoner going close to the cat, or you will hit the cat, and woke up back, after the 30sec, if the sumoner is not dead, just redo the same thing on the cat, and focus the sumonner again. It took more than 1 minute to kill a cat, and it took a lot of focus to do so, but making them unconcious took 5 second, and cost 3 focus.

 

I can take about 70% of a cats health in the first 5-10 seconds of a match while still damaging the summoner. Depending on the class its viable.

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When I first did arena it was with a lv10-20 assassin... Apparently the first blademaster I fought doesn't know how to use skills and I whammied him into the floor in seconds.

 

I thought if anyone ever played video games they'd know how to use skills, but no this guy just runs around mashing LMB.

 

You can kill the cat rather easily if you combo it. The summoner themselves don't have the dps to hurt you badly while you are doing it, so long as you juggle or stunlock the cat.

 

An assassin can exploit the fact that a cat will attack like a normal ai, and use counter to stealth and unleash a barrage of heart stab and lightning slahes.

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AplDuLD.jpg

 

Both rounds I killed the cat in the first 10 seconds. Ended both rounds around 40-50% without using heal skills. The reason people do it, is because it's effective against someone that doesn't know(bad) or doesn't have the ability to protect their cat(low level).

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18 minutes ago, Ghobe said:

AplDuLD.jpg

 

Both rounds I killed the cat in the first 10 seconds. Ended both rounds around 40-50% without using heal skills. The reason people do it, is because it's effective against someone that doesn't know(bad) or doesn't have the ability to protect their cat(low level).

 

Hate to say it - but that tactic will get you killed at higher ranking.... when players do more than smash buttons.  This screenshot shows next to nothing just because anyone in silver can be 100-0 almost because they trinket the first stun or KD that lands on them.

 

Pretty much every game above 1900 you go for summoner and CC pet - you will only kill pet if you have a chance to catch the SMN off guard.  Also depends on the spec hes playing.

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13 minutes ago, Xhisors said:

Hate to say it - but that tactic will get you killed at higher ranking.... when players do more than smash buttons.  This screenshot shows next to nothing just because anyone in silver can be 100-0 almost because they trinket the first stun or KD that lands on them.

 

Pretty much every game above 1900 you go for summoner and CC pet - you will only kill pet if you have a chance to catch the SMN off guard.  Also depends on the spec hes playing.

Should I repeat what I said? Here you go...

32 minutes ago, Ghobe said:

The reason people do it, is because it's effective against someone that doesn't know(bad) or doesn't have the ability to protect their cat(low level).

 

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14 minutes ago, Xhisors said:

 

Hate to say it - but that tactic will get you killed at higher ranking.... when players do more than smash buttons.  This screenshot shows next to nothing just because anyone in silver can be 100-0 almost because they trinket the first stun or KD that lands on them.

 

Pretty much every game above 1900 you go for summoner and CC pet - you will only kill pet if you have a chance to catch the SMN off guard.  Also depends on the spec hes playing.

I don't know about this. I can't say with certainty, since I am not in 1900+, that you are incorrect. What I can say is that Dest can kill the cat in 2 seconds flat. Honestly that makes it kind of hard for the Sums to react, regardless of how good they are. If you bait out enough spells they simply don't have anything the can do to you.

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25 minutes ago, Ghobe said:

Should I repeat what I said? Here you go...

 

Just for you:

 

Ignoring how you should kill a fight just because someone is bad... is a bad habit.   Makes life difficult later on because you have to break a bad habit.

 

You never just go for the pet - that is how you lose.  Against a BAD player he got taken down to 40% health anyone that knows a little bit more would kill him.. he could have destroyed that player without taking much damage at all.  He explained the tactic - I'm stating its bad to just go for the pet.  That is all.

 

23 minutes ago, 848742_1452550186 said:

I don't know about this. I can't say with certainty, since I am not in 1900+, that you are incorrect. What I can say is that Dest can kill the cat in 2 seconds flat. Honestly that makes it kind of hard for the Sums to react, regardless of how good they are. If you bait out enough spells they simply don't have anything the can do to you.

 

Yeah I heard destroyers absolutely train wreck on pets.  I don't play one though so i can't attest to this haha.

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40 minutes ago, 848742_1452550186 said:

I don't know about this. I can't say with certainty, since I am not in 1900+, that you are incorrect. What I can say is that Dest can kill the cat in 2 seconds flat. Honestly that makes it kind of hard for the Sums to react, regardless of how good they are. If you bait out enough spells they simply don't have anything the can do to you.

I've seen this, but I've also watched a diamond level destroyer that has positive records against every other diamond player ignore the pet for the most part since Crouching Tiger is up 75% of the time.

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1 hour ago, Ghobe said:

I've seen this, but I've also watched a diamond level destroyer that has positive records against every other diamond player ignore the pet for the most part since Crouching Tiger is up 75% of the time.

Yea, don't get me wrong I have definitely ignored the cat before as a Dest, but its still a sound strategy to kill the cat quickly if you can. Its basically a guaranteed win as long as you are above 50%HP when the cat dies. But if you can kill the player before the cat, then by all means, do that instead.

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41 minutes ago, 848742_1452550186 said:

Yea, don't get me wrong I have definitely ignored the cat before as a Dest, but its still a sound strategy to kill the cat quickly if you can. Its basically a guaranteed win as long as you are above 50%HP when the cat dies. But if you can kill the player before the cat, then by all means, do that instead.

By all means, if you see that 3 second window, go for it.

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