Yuma Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 19 hours ago, TheGentleman said: So, ive leveled 3 characters now using this guide with a little variation and i just wanted to leave my input and suggestions here. For starters, there just isnt enough exp in the main quest to get to level 9. Id reccomend doing a few of the quests at the opening campsite in order to remedy this, as well at the first 2 hajoon quests. This will save you some scrambling around and grinding to get to level 9. Secondly, when going to the dreamdrift, id highly reccomend adding around 20 viridian escape charms to the buy list. Speeds up the process a fair bit. There isnt enough exp from the main quest for 17.5-20. Do a fair amount of blues. I averaged 19.3 before hitting BRM and doing the daily. When doing Wratihbloom, youll usually hit 25 with 6-7 minutes average left on your soup (more on classes with good aoe). Id reccommend continuing killing till 26, especially if you want to shave off some soups as i'm about to mention. If you want to save some money on soup, kill till 26 at wraithbloom, do main quests to hit 26.7ish and then use only 2 soup on vultures dig/jackal's dig. Youll end off at around 30.5, and if youre willing to grind out the last half level without soup its not a big deal. The boneyards just isnt efficient. Im sorry it really just is not. The mobs are very difficult to kill, and very sparse. You cant pull more than 3 or 4 at a time, even on very good aoe classes like destroyer, as the demolishers just do far too much damage. The amout of exp rewarded just isnt worth the time investment. I havent found an alternative, but just questing in the later cinderlands areas from 31-38 is painless and decent speed in comparison. Even with escape charms and soup its just a bad expirience. (EDIT: The Yes Men fight club works well for a few of these levels) Those are just my observations and suggestions after doing this a few times, feel free to incorporate them, or take them with a grain of salt. Up to you. This is what I found most time efficient, but what you added could help some other peeps. Also boneyards is amazing, especially if you follow my guide and stop at the yellow quest think its chapter 21? Soha is locked in the jail inside. It causes more monsters to spawn. Yes, the mobs there are strong but if you know your class it's very easy. Not saying you don't but I stated that this is for people who already know the game, and leveling an Alt or something. But like you said its your observations/suggestions, no harm no foul~ 19 hours ago, TheEllimist said: I've leveled 5 characters to 45 now. 2 of them using the dragon soup method. The 2 using dragon soup took about 18 hours while the 3 doing quests took about 21. Unless you're super bored of questing and have disposable income I do not recommend this method. The last 2 I leveled were also pretty much as fast as possible so those youtube video's or threads claiming they can do 10-15 hours are basically just exaggerations until I actually see someone post video with that time. If you follow the guide exactly and have everything memorized it comes very easy. That being said this is much faster than questing straight up, which is why people use this method in other clients, and to point out I did say you need funds for this method, and it's not expensive in gold/hmcoins/ncoin. I don't like to waste time so I made tweaks every time I leveled an alt, I even changed it a little more when playing through the NA client. It's not an exaggeration, 15/16 hrs legitimate. Any less would be pushing legitimacy though. All in All this is for people who find questing boring and brain numbing. My times are 16/17hrs with this method. Doing story I end up 25hrs + just because I can't stay with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEllimist Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 14 hours ago, Yuma said: This is what I found most time efficient, but what you added could help some other peeps. Also boneyards is amazing, especially if you follow my guide and stop at the yellow quest think its chapter 21? Soha is locked in the jail inside. It causes more monsters to spawn. Yes, the mobs there are strong but if you know your class it's very easy. Not saying you don't but I stated that this is for people who already know the game, and leveling an Alt or something. But like you said its your observations/suggestions, no harm no foul~ If you follow the guide exactly and have everything memorized it comes very easy. That being said this is much faster than questing straight up, which is why people use this method in other clients, and to point out I did say you need funds for this method, and it's not expensive in gold/hmcoins/ncoin. I don't like to waste time so I made tweaks every time I leveled an alt, I even changed it a little more when playing through the NA client. It's not an exaggeration, 15/16 hrs legitimate. Any less would be pushing legitimacy though. All in All this is for people who find questing boring and brain numbing. My times are 16/17hrs with this method. Doing story I end up 25hrs + just because I can't stay with it. Yup when I did my last 2 alts I gave both 100 gold, always had fully upgraded weaponry with damage/life leech gems and as many dragon soups as I wanted. Doing the grinding method took me about 18-19 hours and doing one by quests took me 21 hours. Is it worth 11 dragon soups and whatever all the quests give me to save 2 hours? I'm pretty sure I cant do any faster either since for the majority of both I was 1-2 shotting everythings. The biggest problem is that no matter which of the two methods you choose you still need to main quest line and skipping sidequests really doesn't save all that much time (and costs alot more in dragon soup). Lasty, the first "14 hour" youtube guides were suggesting it was possible on a fresh character. If the best I can do is 18 hours while 1 shotting everything then I doubt a fresh character can do better than 21-24 hours. This is like people saying assassins could solo brightstone in 6 minutes. Then my buddy does a flawless run (100% stealth uptime, never hit, never stopped attacking) and best he can do is like 10-11m. tldr; your only going to save a couple hours max using soups so unless your fairly wealthy ingame (or real life) I don't recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuma Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 10 hours ago, TheEllimist said: Yup when I did my last 2 alts I gave both 100 gold, always had fully upgraded weaponry with damage/life leech gems and as many dragon soups as I wanted. Doing the grinding method took me about 18-19 hours and doing one by quests took me 21 hours. Is it worth 11 dragon soups and whatever all the quests give me to save 2 hours? I'm pretty sure I cant do any faster either since for the majority of both I was 1-2 shotting everythings. The biggest problem is that no matter which of the two methods you choose you still need to main quest line and skipping sidequests really doesn't save all that much time (and costs alot more in dragon soup). Lasty, the first "14 hour" youtube guides were suggesting it was possible on a fresh character. If the best I can do is 18 hours while 1 shotting everything then I doubt a fresh character can do better than 21-24 hours. This is like people saying assassins could solo brightstone in 6 minutes. Then my buddy does a flawless run (100% stealth uptime, never hit, never stopped attacking) and best he can do is like 10-11m. tldr; your only going to save a couple hours max using soups so unless your fairly wealthy ingame (or real life) I don't recommend it. Well like I said it's personal preference, me running through yellows+blues takes me 25+ hrs compared to me doing my method which is 16ish hrs. That's a BIG difference. I can't vouch for anyone that says this method takes under 15hrs because I can't do it under 15hrs. Also I did this on my first character during headstart with only 11 dragon soups (had to improvise). Which i was still hitting 18ish hrs. This is what I do, and it works, if you have another method/tactic, that's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kromede Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I play 5 hours per night and it's always took me 4 nights (20 hours)to reach 45 just do all quests and dailies and only use dragon soup i got from survey. I leveled BM, FM and summoner they all ended up at 45 around 20 hours ish without any rush...My point is why spend so much on dragon soup and only 4~5 hours faster than a normal way LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuma Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, Kromede said: I play 5 hours per night and it's always took me 4 nights (20 hours)to reach 45 just do all quests and dailies and only use dragon soup i got from survey. I leveled BM, FM and summoner they all ended up at 45 around 20 hours ish without any rush...My point is why spend so much on dragon soup and only 4~5 hours faster than a normal way LOL As I told the guy before, 22 minutes ago, Yuma said: it's personal preference, me running through yellows+blues takes me 25+ hrs compared to me doing my method which is 16ish hrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALiescarlet Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 thanks for this guide i`m newbie to this game and i think this will be help to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duranox Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I'm using this guide for my warlock and it's fast as hell if you pick Bombardment Tier 3 Stage 3 and Rupture Tier 3 Stage 1 so both of those heal you for 10% and 20% of the damage done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meliran Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Here's just a few thoughts on this based on experimentation I've done. One of the biggest issues with any sort of speed levelling comes from loading screens. Personally, my loading screens are about 15 second each and appear any time my character moves from one place to another, such as with escape charms and such. Not to mention the casting time. Because of that, a lot of times I feel it'd be better just to quest. Prior to Jadestone, doing Dreamdrift grind is something I don't really suggest. Side quests are easy, mobs are close together, and it doesn't take long. On the other hand, the Dreamdrift mobs are a bit hard (so you may die a few times if you're a newer player, leading to more loading screens), and it doesn't have a good entrance (first mobs are a distance from the entrance) or exit. Further, you don't have much windwalking time to gather mobs. Jadestone, yes, gather gather gather. And for the rest of it, just do story quests. When you get to Tormun Range, the quests there are nice and simple and close. Avoid long walking quests (ie, the daily in the southwest), but use this zone to level up to 25 or 26. The mobs in wraithbloom fields aren't exactly easy, and you may be dealing with competition grinding on some channels. After Tormun Range, jackals/vultures is the way to go. Mobs are close and easy, there's very little space between, you have windwalk time, and most importantly, the entrance and exit have no loading screen. It also saves you some ridiculously spread out quests. At that point, you should just go to Spirestone Canyons and do the quests. The mobs are so close together and you have to kill so many of them thanks to low droprates, it's like grinding anyways. Might as well get some quest XP while you're doing it. At that point, Razorwing Ravine is a very quick and painless zone, if you skip the boss dailies and the Yes Men grinding quest. So no, I don't like the Boneyards idea. It seems more like an alternative to questing as opposed to an improvement to questing. Lycandi foothills, do the quests. Predators Den is nothing more than a trap. Bears have insane amounts of HP in there, and you'd be faster gathering a bees nest and a flower than killing 10 of them. And you don't have to deal with eternal loading screens. In Hogshead, you have a choice. One option is to continue to do the quests (avoiding Hay Reaver, of course), which are very painless (wash a pig... really?) The other option is to run to the blackram area and kill the pirates on Wayfarer's Warf PRIOR to doing the related story quest. This is nice in that it has a double entrance so no loading screens, but the distance between the last pirate and the exit is a bit far. Sapphire Basin is fairly doable and pretty easy. Just sip the daily to kill snapjaws - the elite guards almost never drop their tokens. Highland Neropolis is good, except some quests are extremely annoying. Like that one to kill 10 Dokkaebi and 10 Hulking Totems. But, it's just a grind, and mobs are just as close here as anywhere else. And then Misty Woods, just do your main quests, and fill in the gaps with your 24-Poh dailies, or carries in the big4. You probably noticed that I skipped Skeletons. Why? Because the game is still popular. When the game starts becoming a deadzone and nobody is in the skeleton zone for hours, it might be a good strategy. But even with a single other person there grinding, you are going to be waiting for respawns. As nobody does the Highlands Necropolis dailies anymore with the advent of Nightshade dailies, it's much easier and quicker just to do those quests. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1nkaku Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Idk if its different on NA or other versions but you cant buy the xp soup on the market place, just thought I'd mention in :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KobeJak Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 On 3/14/2016 at 6:22 AM, r1nkaku said: Idk if its different on NA or other versions but you cant buy the xp soup on the market place, just thought I'd mention in :x You can buy soups on the marketplace, at least in NA. :P All in all though, this guide is about as effective as questing if you're hardcore about quests. I'm not, so I tend to do mains then grind because killing is super fun. Get a good few levels up, maybe catch the story up(especially depending on if you need to finish out the story to get to a needed area). I do have one question though... The Forsaken Crashsite? ... That's not instanced and if this method is truly the quickest grind to 45 wouldn't it be overrun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TryGoogleThis Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 On 31/1/2016 at 10:01 AM, Yuma said: Okay, First things first you will need 10 - 13 Dragon Soup. Which can be bought in the hongmoon store or in the Market place known as Scorching Dragon Soup. Why do you need Dragon Soup? Because mob grinding is only good with 2x experience. If you don't use the soup you might as well level by doing quests. How To Mob: NOTE: If mob level is X, then you get full exp if your level is X-3 to X+2. 1. Luring: Always try to be out-of-combat. When you hear the "ding" aggro sound, sprint a bit away from the mob. If you are on the field (as opposed to inside the dungeon) where you need to compete with others for mobs, you need to hit each mob once. This makes it more dangerous, so be careful. DON'T go invisible on sin! 2. Gathering: stand at a place and wait for the mobs to come to you. Classes with cheesy blocks and long duration iframes (e.g. fm's ice tab) have it easy 3. CC'ing: Knockdown, stun, daze. Need to be aoe. Knockdown is the most common. If you rely on knockdown or stun, then grab a yellow gem that gives lifesteal when attacking a knocked down or stunned foe. Since you are aoeing them next, you gain a lot of hp back! 4.Killing: Just like it says, Drop all you're aoe damage skills and kill them! What's Needed: 13 - 15 Dragon Soups 20 - 50 Cinderland Escape Charms (recommended but not needed) 20 - 50 Moonwater Escape Charms (recommended but not needed) Time for Leveling: NOTE: If you're struggling staying alive i recommend leveling your weapon, and trading valor stones for Soul Shields at the valor stone traders. 1. 1-4: Starting village, do all main+side quests 2. 4-9: Do all main quests. If you don't do the purple learning quests with Hajoon, then you will be at level 8 and short by 1k exp when your next main quest requires level 10. There is a kill 5 mob quest that gives 700 exp and a talking quest that gives 200. Then you just kill 3 random mobs for the last 100. 3. 9-15: Dreamrift. The mobs there are level 12. Eat a Dragon Soup when you get in and you will be level 15 when it wears off. Leave once you hit level 15. NOTE: at level 12 you will get a dragon soup in the survey. 4. 15 - 17.5 Do main Quest up until you finish all the Jadestone Village Main Quests. You will then receive a quest about your professions, finish it then grab 2 GATHERING professions, complete the side quest for the (1k exp each) leave both professions, grab another 2 and complete the side quests, leave and so on until you did that to all the GATHERING professions. UPDATE: Gather professions are: Stonecutting, Fishing, Trapper, Green Thumb, Tree fellers, Herbside Service, and Prospector's Union. 5. 17.5-20: Do main quests till you finish Viridian coast. Do the Blackram dungeon daily. This should be the 3hr check point. (more or less) 6. 20-22: Do main quests up to Wraithbloom Meadows. You NEED level 22 to continue so if for some reason you're not 22 once you get to Wraithbloom Meadows, do a few side quests that give 1k+ exp until you are level 22. 7. 22-25: Go to Wraithbloom Meadows, beware this is an open field and other players may be trying to grind also. At this point you are pretty overpowered compared to the mobs. Try mobbing 3 or 4 at a time, and if that's too hard consider killing one by one, or drop one to a low hp and then move on to the next and finish off with some aoe. This should take one Dragon Soup. 8. 25-31: First finish the main quests up until you enter The Scorching Sands then head over to the Vulture's Dig + Jackal's Dig, which is on the far right side of the map. Make sure to activate all the windstride checkpoints on your way. Mobs here are level 28. Leave once you hit 31. This should take 3 Dragon Soup( 25-27.5 | 27.5-29.5 | 29.5-31) This should be the 5hr check point. (more or less) 9. 31-33: Do main quests till Boneyard. You will be a bit short of the level 33 requirement for the wolf village main quest. Just do a couple of side quests in wolf village. There are two quests with 3200 exp each. At this point you will have another exp food from the survey. 10. 33-38: Boneyard. Mobs here are level 36. This is also the first time mobs don't just die instantly. This should 3 Dragon Soup. (33-35 |35-36.8 | 36.8-38)NOTE: Cinderland Escape Charms will speed things up. So buy them or craft them. They're fairly cheap on the market place This should be the 7hr check point. (more or less) 11. 38-40: Predator's Den. Finish Cinderland's main quests, get to present day moonwater plain. From there you can run to Predator's Den in Lycandi Foothill. In Predator's Den, skip the earlier mobs and head straight to the bear room. You don't need to get to level 40, No worries if you're 20k exp short. This should take 2 Dragon Soup (38-39.3 | 39.3-40) NOTE: Moonwater Escape charms are like amazing in this. Totally worth and WILL cut down on a lot of time. 12. 40-41.7: Do main quests until you get stuck at a quest that requires level 43. The first Necropolis main quest requires level 41. This is why you need to be almost level 40 when you finish bears. This should be the 8hr30min check point. (more or less) 13a. 41.7-44.5: Forsaken Crash site. Skeletons! Mob them up, make sure you tag them because there will be other players doing dailies/grinding money. This should take 3 Dragon Soup. 13b. 41.7 - 43: Do Forsaken Crash site then from 43 - 45 Finish the rest of your Main Quest, and do E fleet Dailies, Arena PvP Dailies, and Moonwater Faction Dailies. This Method is adds a lot of time but you're getting your end game dailies done, so it's worth it in the end. 14. 44.5 - 45: Finish main quests. This should be the 11hr check point. (but this is in a perfect world with no crashes, no brakes, fast loading, no one stealing mobs in a open field area. 16 - 21hrs is more reasonable) Used it for my FM. Very on point, could be improved a bit but most people using this are seasoned players so they will have the basic knowlegde themself. I did Arena abit around 30 and 40 and acutally got some ´quick ´exp but again.. Only if you think you can manage winstreak. but vs Des bots it was like 2 mins for 1,5-2k exp ^^ plus daily quest . Good job tho ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotiS Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 fatalny poradnik nic sie nie trzyma kupy jak w opisie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domio Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Why would anyone RUSH to 45 or even 50? The game ends at that level and thats because you cannot do anything to get geared up. People will not group with you unless your Elite and got 500+AP. And thats just to get gear.. The only thing you can do at end level, is to farm daily quest. That is pretty boring. Main reason i left other games, got tired of the endless daily grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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