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Lup   
6 minutes ago, 鳳綺妃 said:

 

The same things such as? And lie about what exactly? I think I may be misunderstanding, my apologies. ^^;

No need to apologize, let me make things clear.
This is in regards to a statement I made way earlier about guys that insist on making female character's sleezy. All of the guys I've played with in my years of MMOs (which is a lot) plus all the different forums I've read about guys that do that. State that is usually dudes that can't get laid, etc. I don't see why guys would lie about something like that on other guys. 

OP's post was asking about sleezy characters and since video games are mainly targeted to guys and sex sells when it comes to guys, etc etc. 

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Once again you dance around the point and again fail to score with yet another accusation of how I 'need to get laid' 'lack of sex' or what have you.  You seem to be obsessed with this for some reason...and quite frankly it has passed into the realm of the amusing.  So do tell, what causes this desire of yours to insinuate that?  Your repeated attempts to do so, I regret to inform you, isn't making me look like a fool, but rather the converse.

Oh, p.s. : You are the one assuming what gender I am.  I see no need to inform you of it.  ^_-

Eh I just copied and paste, didn't even read because you're obviously mad and derailing the thread. Go be mad else where dude.

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Enamour   

Yea someone close this thread lol. I'm actually gonna report it because this is just nonsense now.

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13 minutes ago, Lup said:

No need to apologize, let me make things clear.
This is in regards to a statement I made way earlier about guys that insist on making female character's sleezy. All of the guys I've played with in my years of MMOs (which is a lot) plus all the different forums I've read about guys that do that. State that is usually dudes that can't get laid, etc. I don't see why guys would lie about something like that on other guys. 

OP's post was asking about sleezy characters and since video games are mainly targeted to guys and sex sells when it comes to guys, etc etc. 

Eh I just copied and paste, didn't even read because you're obviously mad and derailing the thread. Go be mad else where dude.

Says the one seemingly obsessed about whether or not someone 'gets laid' and is belaboring the 'point' every chance '(s)he' gets.  Yet, when I laugh and point out the inconsistencies with 'her' statements, I am the one who is 'mad'.

Love that 'logic'.
 

 

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Suisara   
51 minutes ago, Lup said:

Last I checked they don't stress off of it as much. I play with A lot of dudes, each one actually plays a male char with the exception of 2 (the ones that don't get laid). According to all of them, the ones that constantly play girl chars and put them in skimpy clothing, make their boobs large etc. Are the ones that don't get laid regularly and it basically consumes their thoughts. In every MMO I've played (almost all of them), in every guild I've joined, they have all said and agreed upon this.

Yes girls like eye candy but majority aren't visual that's even why Po*n (not sure if we can say that here) is catered to men while books are more so for women.

This game is extremely sexually, so yeah a good chunk of dudes are playing girl chars, so a good chunk of the outfits are going to be trashy. Which is why I play a Lyn, I rather run around in balloon suits than a bra and panties. .-. Just not my thing, I prefer cutesy stuff to sexy stuff.

 

Oh that is cool, it is your choice to play a character you are comfortable with, totally respected.

 

I still disagree with the fact one would be playing a sexy female character for lack of getting laid or even just for the eye candy itself instead of any other billion reasons in this ark of reasons, sure there must be some people that fit that criteria but as said, the ark of reasons can be pretty huge to include these players into only sexless guys.

 

That is also your opinion on other girls because you are a girl, but it does not necessarily apply to all women, we are all visual beings, the fact women would "get off more off books" you said, just sounds to me like something they could have gotten used to overtime so they don't show off their own desires being as said politically correct, because your mother or the church or whatever said it was bad. But the argument still falls down because even then if it is a book you are still imagining the scenes in your head making it visual, just not in the material world.

 

Like another poster said, you can't base it in a group of friends or that you saw like 3 guys out of 20000 that do that. There are all kinds of combo of people out there.

Heck I don't go out there speaking for other guys(or girls for that matter) or what they think or what crazy fetishes they have or whatever, I know mine that is enough for me, but I do understand people are different.

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Dowra   
1 hour ago, Lup said:

Last I checked they don't stress off of it as much. I play with A lot of dudes, each one actually plays a male char with the exception of 2 (the ones that don't get laid). According to all of them, the ones that constantly play girl chars and put them in skimpy clothing, make their boobs large etc. Are the ones that don't get laid regularly and it basically consumes their thoughts. In every MMO I've played (almost all of them), in every guild I've joined, they have all said and agreed upon this.

Yes girls like eye candy but majority aren't visual that's even why Po*n (not sure if we can say that here) is catered to men while books are more so for women.

This game is extremely sexually, so yeah a good chunk of dudes are playing girl chars, so a good chunk of the outfits are going to be trashy. Which is why I play a Lyn, I rather run around in balloon suits than a bra and panties. .-. Just not my thing, I prefer cutesy stuff to sexy stuff.

Theres no way youre serious.  This is the first time in forever, Im not sure if Im taking bait or not.

 

With a straight face youre going to say women arent visual creatures?  What gender spends the most  on beauty products? Who usually is the one spending hours creating a  pretty character face?  Lets not even start with fashion.  Women are highly visual creatures.  I started to write more on this but, Im still not even sure youre serious, and dont want to waste my time.

 

The streotype that only virgin men want to play a hot girl, is about as dated as saying, the only girls who play games, are just trying to look hot for guys.  If all your guilds were agreeing with this hilarious notion, they had to have been young kids, or just trolling you, because youre the type to believe anything.

A good chuck of the girls are also going to be girls.  I know it might sound crazy to you but, there /are/ girls who like the revealing clothing.  Are you going to assume they are virgins or sluts too? I mean since the world is black and white for you, I thought Id ask.

While Im transgender, Im born with lady parts.  And. Ive already stated my want for more gender neutral clothing.   So no, this isnt some defensive response.  Its just that your audacity just  amazes me.

Word of advice: Your small group of friends isnt enough to base a broad judgement on a whole community.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Dowra said:

Theres no way youre serious.  This is the first time in forever, Im not sure if Im taking bait or not.

 

With a straight face youre going to say women arent visual creatures?  What gender spends the most  on beauty products? Who usually is the one spending hours creating a  pretty character face?  Lets not even start with fashion.  Women are highly visual creatures.  I started to write more on this but, Im still not even sure youre serious, and dont want to waste my time.

 

The streotype that only virgin men want to play a hot girl, is about as dated as saying, the only girls who play games, are just trying to look hot for guys.  If all your guilds were agreeing with this hilarious notion, they had to have been young kids, or just trolling you, because youre the type to believe anything.

A good chuck of the girls are also going to be girls.  I know it might sound crazy to you but, there /are/ girls who like the revealing clothing.  Are you going to assume they are virgins or sluts too? I mean since the world is black and white for you, I thought Id ask.

While Im transgender, Im born with lady parts.  And. Ive already stated my want for more gender neutral clothing.   So no, this isnt some defensive response.  Its just that your audacity just  amazes me.

Word of advice: Your small group of friends isnt enough to base a broad judgement on a whole community.

 

 

 

Thank you very much...beautifully said.

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Lup   
13 minutes ago, Dowra said:

Theres no way youre serious.  This is the first time in forever, Im not sure if Im taking bait or not

 

 

Someone stated opinions of others that are different than mine, let me call it bait.
 

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With a straight face youre going to say women arent visual creatures?  What gender spends the most  on beauty products? Who usually is the one spending hours creating a  pretty character face?  Lets not even start with fashion.  Women are highly visual creatures.  I started to write more on this but, Im still not even sure youre serious, and dont want to waste my time.

When it comes to sexual stimulation there's loads of studies that shows your average woman isn't as visual as a male. Women wear make up to look pretty, not to get off on each other (unless they're lesbian).
 

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The streotype that only virgin men want to play a hot girl, is about as dated as saying, the only girls who play games, are just trying to look hot for guys.  If all your guilds were agreeing with this hilarious notion, they had to have been young kids, or just trolling you, because youre the type to believe anything.
 

No one said anything about virgin males, where did you get that from? Also they were the ones talking about it, it's not something I care about. One guy mentioned how dudes always play girl characters and put them in underwear. Thus the conversation between THEM started.
 

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A good chuck of the girls are also going to be girls.  I know it might sound crazy to you but, there /are/ girls who like the revealing clothing.  Are you going to assume they are virgins or sluts too? I mean since the world is black and white for you, I thought Id ask.

Would you like to copy and paste where I said anything that stated otherwise? Or anything about virgins and sluts? You're reaching REALLY hard.

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Word of advice: Your small group of friends isnt enough to base a broad judgement on a whole community.

It's not my "small group of friends" seeing threads upon threads of it in several different MMOs by people I don't even know, articles about it (yes google it, there's an actual article about it) plus different dudes in different guilds in different games saying the same thing?

Sorry but it sounds like there's some truth in there. These are men saying this stuff of their own accord, these are men with girlfriends, wives, etc. Why would they lie about something that also affects their image?

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Lup   
1 hour ago, SasamiMasaki said:

Says the one seemingly obsessed about whether or not someone 'gets laid' and is belaboring the 'point' every chance '(s)he' gets.  Yet, when I laugh and point out the inconsistencies with 'her' statements, I am the one who is 'mad'.

Love that 'logic'.
 

 

You're still mad about that? Jesus dude get over it.

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4 minutes ago, Lup said:


 

No one said anything about virgin males, where did you get that from? Also they were the ones talking about it, it's not something I care about. One guy mentioned how dudes always play girl characters and put them in underwear. Thus the conversation between THEM started.
 

Would you like to copy and paste where I said anything that stated otherwise? Or anything about virgins and sluts? You're reaching REALLY hard.

Request granted:

 

2 hours ago, Lup said:

Like most games, this game is targeted to the stereotypical (read as can't get laid) males. Majority of those type of guys want to constantly stare at boobs and butts so yeah. =T 

 

Game set, match.  Bai bai now!  ^_-
 

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Lup   
Just now, SasamiMasaki said:

Request granted:

 

 

Game set, match.  Bai bai now!  ^_-
 

Where is the virgin males? Where is anything in there that says virgin males? And sloots? I'll wait.

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Dowra   
1 minute ago, SasamiMasaki said:

Request granted:

 

 

Game set, match.  Bai bai now!  ^_-
 

Thank you.  I was too busy laughing at her  comment about only lesbians wearing make up to look sexually attractive, to respond faster.

@Lup  You mentioned the only friends who didn't play males were virgins. Why mention that at all if you weren't implying that had something to do with it? You thought sharing their sexual experience was relevant for what reason then?

 

You were assuming  things about men who play female characters, I asked if you were going to assume anything about female. But, the more you post, I honestly get this feminist vibe from you, so I guess you can only blindly insult males, and the females are the only ones who can be diverse and have different reasons to play the character they they choose without being some type of  pitiful human on the other side of the screen.

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Lup   
4 minutes ago, Dowra said:

Thank you.  I was too busy laughing at her  comment about only lesbians wearing make up to look sexually attractive, to respond faster.

@Lup  You mentioned the only friends who didn't play males were virgins. Why mention that at all if you weren't implying that had something to do with it? You thought sharing their sexual experience was relevant for what reason then?

 

You were assuming  things about men who play female characters, I asked if you were going to assume anything about female. But, the more you post, I honestly get this feminist vibe from you, so I guess you can only blindly insult males, and the females are the only ones who can be diverse and have different reasons to play the character they they choose without being some type of  pitiful human on the other side of the screen.

It's like you guys don't read, I never said only lesbians wear make up to look sexually attractive. I said women don't ware make up to get off on each other UNLESS they're lesbian.
Do you guys seriously read? Like honestly at all?

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When it comes to sexual stimulation there's loads of studies that shows your average woman isn't as visual as a male. Women wear make up to look pretty, not to get off on each other (unless they're lesbian).
 



Also when people say they "can't get laid" it's not the same as saying "I've never been laid" A dude that's had sex with several women but goes through a "dry spell" will say "Man I can't get laid" that phrase as something to do with a time period, not being a virgin.

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Like most games, this game is targeted to the stereotypical (read as can't get laid) males. Majority of those type of guys want to constantly stare at boobs and butts so yeah. =T 

Nothing about virgins stated there. Nice try.
Jfc.
 

I personally never insulted anyone, I stated what other males told me.

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Momona   
2 hours ago, Lup said:

Last I checked they don't stress off of it as much. I play with A lot of dudes, each one actually plays a male char with the exception of 2 (the ones that don't get laid). According to all of them, the ones that constantly play girl chars and put them in skimpy clothing, make their boobs large etc. Are the ones that don't get laid regularly and it basically consumes their thoughts. In every MMO I've played (almost all of them), in every guild I've joined, they have all said and agreed upon this.

Yes girls like eye candy but majority aren't visual that's even why Po*n (not sure if we can say that here) is catered to men while books are more so for women.

This game is extremely sexually, so yeah a good chunk of dudes are playing girl chars, so a good chunk of the outfits are going to be trashy. Which is why I play a Lyn, I rather run around in balloon suits than a bra and panties. .-. Just not my thing, I prefer cutesy stuff to sexy stuff.

I just have one question. Books don't appeal to visual creatures? Do you know how much time is spent on imagery in books? Human beings are visual creatures. Women care about looks just as much as men do. Don't front. While your stereotypical man might be more likely to have sex because of the way a woman looks than a woman it doesn't mean that women aren't as visual. 

Women notice the little details in how a man looks. They hit extra zoom on a guy's face to be checking out his eyelashes. They notice sh*t like that the same way the spend hours in a mirror while a guy can throw on a t-shirt and a pair of jeans and go. Women care about looks. Their own and those of other men. 

You sound like a feminist. The type of feminist that makes people hate feminism. 

You know, uneducated and sexist. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. 

 

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Lup   
2 minutes ago, Momona said:

I just have one question. Books don't appeal to visual creatures? Do you know how much time is spent on imagery in books? Human beings are visual creatures. Women care about looks just as much as men do. Don't front. While your stereotypical man might be more likely to have sex because of the way a woman looks than a woman it doesn't mean that women aren't as visual. 

Women notice the little details in how a man looks. They hit extra zoom on a guy's face to be checking out his eyelashes. They notice sh*t like that the same way the spend hours in a mirror while a guy can throw on a t-shirt and a pair of jeans and go. Women care about looks. Their own and those of other men. 

You sound like a feminist. The type of feminist that makes people hate feminism. 

You know, uneducated and sexist. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. 

 

When people speak of "visual stimulation" in this sense they make like actual graphic images. If women were just as visual graphically porn would be catered to them as well, the same with video games like this. But it's not, they have books and other things for that since that's what sells more with women.

Jesus, calm down being trigger. I said on AVERAGE I never said "All women are like this" or "All men are like this" 

Going to need to guys to come up with an insult better than "feminist" because I'm not. You guys are just a bunch of butthurt SJWs that are mad because OTHER MEN said the truth. Get mad at them kiddies.

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Perhaps you need to pay more attention to your OWN words.  let me highlight them for you:

3 hours ago, Lup said:

Like most games, this game is targeted to the stereotypical (read as can't get laid) males. Majority of those type of guys want to constantly stare at boobs and butts so yeah. =T 

 

2 hours ago, Lup said:

This game is extremely sexually, so yeah a good chunk of dudes are playing girl chars, so a good chunk of the outfits are going to be trashy. Which is why I play a Lyn, I rather run around in balloon suits than a bra and panties. .-. Just not my thing, I prefer cutesy stuff to sexy stuff.

 

1 hour ago, Lup said:

. A hit dog hollers the loudest, if you can't get laid that's not my problem.

 

1 hour ago, Lup said:

I'm going to need you to stop being so butthurt over your lack of sex (because that has to be your issue for you to get his mad) 

 

Perhaps you need to stop proclaiming this is something OTHER people are claiming when you apparently do a lot of it right here for all to see, then attempt to play the 'don't look at me, somebody else said it' card.  That is in essence what you are guilty of and called on.  Deal with it.

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Lup   
3 minutes ago, SasamiMasaki said:

Perhaps you need to pay more attention to your OWN words.  let me highlight them for you:

 

 

 

 

Perhaps you need to stop proclaiming this is something OTHER people are claiming when you apparently do a lot of it right here for all to see, then attempt to play the 'don't look at me, somebody else said it' card.  That is in essence what you are guilty of and called on.  Deal with it.

Me talking about that guy not being able to get laid was because he got so mad at about it. So Yeah I poked at him about it, only people that are guilty of something get that mad lmao.

As far as everything else I don't see your point. *shrugs*

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 I play with A lot of dudes, each one actually plays a male char with the exception of 2 (the ones that don't get laid). According to all of them, the ones that constantly play girl chars and put them in skimpy clothing, make their boobs large etc. Are the ones that don't get laid regularly and it basically consumes their thoughts. In every MMO I've played (almost all of them), in every guild I've joined, they have all said and agreed upon this.

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 I play with A lot of dudes.

According to all of them, the ones that constantly play girl chars and put them in skimpy clothing, make their boobs large etc. Are the ones that don't get laid regularly 

Boom look at the word "regularly" thus clarifying no one is even talking about virgins. Also like stated earlier, this is what dudes tell me. 

Take your L, move around lmao.

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Toffee   
10 minutes ago, Lup said:

Someone stated opinions of others that are different than mine, let me call it bait.
 

When it comes to sexual stimulation there's loads of studies that shows your average woman isn't as visual as a male. Women wear make up to look pretty, not to get off on each other (unless they're lesbian).
 

No one said anything about virgin males, where did you get that from? Also they were the ones talking about it, it's not something I care about. One guy mentioned how dudes always play girl characters and put them in underwear. Thus the conversation between THEM started.
 

Would you like to copy and paste where I said anything that stated otherwise? Or anything about virgins and sluts? You're reaching REALLY hard.

It's not my "small group of friends" seeing threads upon threads of it in several different MMOs by people I don't even know, articles about it (yes google it, there's an actual article about it) plus different dudes in different guilds in different games saying the same thing?

Sorry but it sounds like there's some truth in there. These are men saying this stuff of their own accord, these are men with girlfriends, wives, etc. Why would they lie about something that also affects their image?

That isn't why it was called "bait". It was called bait because you sound like an idiot with this, as previously stated, dated opinion.

Women don't just wear it to look like the dainty flower you are pretending they are suppose to be. They also wear it to dare I say, look sexually attractive to the other sex GASP or maybe the same sex, since you know you brought up lesbians I just feel like I should keep it in the topic. 

You spoke about virgin males twice, so I'm not going to remind you where you said it, if you can't remember it you probably shouldn't be posting on here. 

Reaching hard? More like hardly reaching, you've given the thread quiet a bit of material, again I'm not reminding you of what you said. You're obviously not a child and you know how to use a computer, go scroll back, it wont be hard to find. 

And right, because other men are saying it, it must be true that ALL men that play female characters are virgins (or can't get laid as you want to pretend that means or makes a difference really) That MUST be a fact. (eye roll)

And something for everyone in this chat, including you, you want to sit there and complain about this games clothing and how the game is sexualized, well guess what this is what you signed up for it. So don't act surprised. It's like walking into Church and you don't understand why everyone is praying.

Why don't you go back to "almost all the MMOs you've played" and pick one of them if you really have a problem with this games visual appearance and the "sexualization of women" in this game. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Lup said:

Me talking about that guy not being able to get laid was because he got so mad at about it. So Yeah I poked at him about it, only people that are guilty of something get that mad lmao.

As far as everything else I don't see your point. *shrugs*

Again, you ASSume my gender.  I have not and see no need to tell you what it is, because I expect no special treatment based on it.  Period.  And obviously you can't see the point, because you are in denial about the bare FACT that it is you making these frankly sexist and biased judgements and statements...all the while trying to obsessively cast aspersions on the sex life of a portion of the community at large.

If you don't want to be called out as a hypocrite, then don't be one.  Simple really.

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ouija   

i want some more revealing male costumes tbh

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Enamour   
Just now, ouija said:

i want some more revealing male costumes tbh

I almost forgot what this thread was about lol

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Lup   
1 minute ago, Toffee said:

That isn't why it was called "bait". It was called bait because you sound like an idiot with this, as previously stated, dated opinio

 

Someone stated an opinion I don't agree with, let me call them an idiot and cry "bait"
 

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Women don't just wear it to look like the dainty flower you are pretending they are suppose to be. They also wear it to dare I say, look sexually attractive to the other sex GASP or maybe the same sex, since you know you brought up lesbians I just feel like I should keep it in the topic. 

Never said what women should wear or have to wear, don't know what you're talking about. Again I said women wear make up to LOOK CUTE is that not part of looking sexually attractive? Someone said women are visual thats why they wear make up. I said that doesn't make sense unless they're lesbians since women don't wear make up to get off on other women, not the hetero ones usually.
 

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You spoke about virgin males twice, so I'm not going to remind you where you said it, if you can't remember it you probably shouldn't be posting on here. 

I never spoke about virgin males. I even said "dudes that can't get laid regularly" virgins haven't had any at ALL, let alone "regularly" jfc.

 

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And something for everyone in this chat, including you, you want to sit there and complain about this games clothing and how the game is sexualized, well guess what this is what you signed up for it. So don't act surprised. It's like walking into Church and you don't understand why everyone is praying.
 

Copy and paste where I complained about the clothing? I'll wait.

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Lup   
3 minutes ago, SasamiMasaki said:

Again, you ASSume my gender.  I have not and see no need to tell you what it is, because I expect no special treatment based on it.  Period.  And obviously you can't see the point, because you are in denial about the bare FACT that it is you making these frankly sexist and biased judgements and statements...all the while trying to obsessively cast aspersions on the sex life of a portion of the community at large.

If you don't want to be called out as a hypocrite, then don't be one.  Simple really.

Oh don't try that "don't ASSume" BS cause you said I was a dude and that I was white knighting, then when I said I was a girl you denied it and said I was a dude.
You're hypocritical and irrelevant and you're mad because some men busted out your secret lol. Get. Over. It.

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