Vemos Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Ch1 Ch2 Ch3 Ch4 Ch5 Ch6 Ch7 Ch8 ============================================================================================================================================ As you can see above screenshoots, it is really hard to do faction dailies or field pvp as a red on Mushin server. For me, it usually takes an hour or more to complete faction dailies since there are a lot of interruptions by blues at any channel. However, if you choose blue, you can complete the dallies in less than 30mins. (it is confirmed by my friends) Therefore, if you are not a hardcore user or don't enjoy field pvp, you should not choose red. Even though Blue is full atm, you can join in it later through faction npcs( they are located in towns like Hogshed hamlet, GreenHollow, Yehara's Mirage, Jadestone Village and so one. ) I hope its helpful to you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogbyrn Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 And this is why factions will forever be unbalanced unless something is done. You're rewarded too handsomely for being on the faction that has more people and is more active, then people tell you to not even join the undermanned faction because the one that has too many people is the easy road to reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxefeller Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 It is the exact same here on Poharan. I am Crimson and in EVERY single channel, Cerulean are camping cliffs.. camping Waido spawn.. or just ganking any Crimson in sight. Not sure why, but the owpvper ratio is at least 10:1 Cerulean:Crimson respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeGrigio Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Well, that looks like loads of fun. So, when are server transfers gonna be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogbyrn Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 16 minutes ago, CaffeGrigio said: Well, that looks like loads of fun. So, when are server transfers gonna be available? Do any servers not have faction imbalance issues? And will allowing people to hard-abandon their undermanned faction help the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeGrigio Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Just now, Cogbyrn said: Do any servers not have faction imbalance issues? And will allowing people to hard-abandon their undermanned faction help the problem? I'm sure there's a server somewhere where the players like competition instead of gross steam rolling. The situation on Mushin is embarrassing. Just a bunch of people looking for the easy way. Crimson on Mushin is a desolate wasteland atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalith Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Are there no emptier channels to swap to? On jiwan I see different channels have a large number of one faction or the other a lot, just a matter of finding one with your faction or just very few of the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishi Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 6 hours ago, CaffeGrigio said: I'm sure there's a server somewhere where the players like competition instead of gross steam rolling. The situation on Mushin is embarrassing. Just a bunch of people looking for the easy way. Crimson on Mushin is a desolate wasteland atm. That's the same here on Poharan. It makes me think that their "factions balancing" wasn't working properly, or people abused the system and logged alts to unbalance the factions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARX7 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 28 minutes ago, Mishi said: That's the same here on Poharan. It makes me think that their "factions balancing" wasn't working properly, or people abused the system and logged alts to unbalance the factions. When i created my first alt i made it Crimson (like my main) and was told the factions were locked and i couldn't join crimson... but it let me join anyway (this was during headstart) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cetra Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 owpvp is dead in this game already. too many streamers spread the word to join blue and became the very cancer they claimed to be trying to counter. just forget about it and let it go because ncsoft isn't going to do anything about it. game is pve and arena from here on out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesnya Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 This is exactly how it is on Soha .. crimson are like termites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesnya Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Cetra said: owpvp is dead in this game already. too many streamers spread the word to join blue and became the very cancer they claimed to be trying to counter. just forget about it and let it go because ncsoft isn't going to do anything about it. game is pve and arena from here on out. IT's kinda always been about that, OW is just an EXTRA, you never really see a lot of OW pvp videos for BnS it's mostly arenas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogbyrn Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Since I hit 45 about a week after launch, OWPvP has almost never been about the PvP. It's PvE with the potential for players to involve themselves. The main plan is to fill a seemingly empty channel with those of your faction so you can freely farm NPCs. Not sure what anyone thought OWPvP was at any point besides a slightly alternate method for killing NPCs. The game isn't really designed around OWPvP, it is just something you can do if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foehammer Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 OWPvP is the best kind of PvP hands down imo because of the randomness that occurs. It is a lot more thrilling knowing that you could be attacked at any moment or you defend yourself from a gank and kill the guy who tried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aevri Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 It is like that in Iksanun, Either Ch1 or Ch2/3 will be occupied by opponent faction at most time. Rarely both faction will go into pvp. But as always the one with more players often wins. But hey you can go double agent with the faction so doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TideEvolution Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 LOL this is exactly like poharan, 1v30 every channel, I struggle just to pick up faction quests. The faction Chat is dead, or atleast when I'm on, Like 1 message every minute and it's always the same 5 people talking. Pretty much everyone I know Switched factions because of this, Let's just say I have 370 ap and never killed blackwyrm once.. but I hear Cerulean's farm if none stop.. R.I.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masqava Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Ebon Hall actually seems quite balanced. Some channels are occupied by more crimsons, others by more ceruleans. Both factions have been able to kill the blackwyrm on a daily basis. Just that the crimson people seem more douchebaggy (ganking on you, attacking all the time, and their chat is generally more douchebaggy) coming from someone that has a character in both factions. But yeah it doesn't seem like there's an overly dominant faction, just sometimes more crims sometimes more ceruleans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flareon Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 oddly enough Master Hong seems pretty balanced, 2 Red channels and 2 blue channels for the most part, more blues tho. Here's the deal though this thread should be named why you SHOULD join red. Both sides should want the other to thrive in one way or another or it's gonna be no fun. You don't have to switch sides, but, when it's so bad like this let the reds farm, let the reds get some items if you continue to put down the other faction then you're just not gonna have any OWPVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliv Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 On 2016/1/30 at 11:58 AM, Mishi said: That's the same here on Poharan. It makes me think that their "factions balancing" wasn't working properly, or people abused the system and logged alts to unbalance the factions. Faction balancing is working, it's just the bots and goldsellers are the one who fill the slots to make both even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embakaments Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Got to experience this myself for the first time today. Literally blues teleport in all at once, wreck anyone doing OPPVP things in the Misty Woods zone, then camp them on the cliff next to their spawn and try to pull them off with abilities. This is fun for blues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogbyrn Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 On 1/30/2016 at 2:01 AM, Foehammer said: OWPvP is the best kind of PvP hands down imo because of the randomness that occurs. It is a lot more thrilling knowing that you could be attacked at any moment or you defend yourself from a gank and kill the guy who tried it. I've always loved OWPvP too, but you're kind of shoving a square peg into a round hole. This game has designed a 1v1 experience that, in my opinion, no other MMO provides. Its arena is unique in the sense that it isn't, also my opinion, complete garbage, especially from a 1v1 perspective. The PvE I'll hold judgment on until more dungeons and Mushin's Tower release, but it's been fun so far (for me). I just think OWPvP was tacked on as some extra entertainment and a way to get you to talk to your faction. They have a lot of work to do if they want to turn anything in this game into an enriching OWPvP experience, because the players themselves can't be trusted to organize their own fun. I just don't want people to go setting their expectations for what the game provides, when it doesn't advertise that it really provides anything deep or complex for OWPvP. Just the ability to fight one another in the open world. Unless, of course, I missed some marketing somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiriC Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 On Ebon Hall it was kinda balanced yesterday ... Blue had CH 1 , 2 and 3 and CH 4 , 5 nice and even and CH 6 , 7 , 8 were Red, and why am I saying this ? it's because last night we did WB and Terror and the other WB next to him... this started on CH 8.. we did the WB.. then moved to CH 4. and did Terror because far to many resets on CH 8 .. ( noobs pulling him to far ) ... and after we finished him.. people wanted to start on WB on CH 4.... but I was to tired to do it again.. and I was dissapointed I didn't get a key to open the chest .. so *cricket* it ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miori Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Funny thing is I chose Ceruleum day 1 because Crimson was full, now it seems Ceruleum is stomping most of the servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeGrigio Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 To make the problem worse, the imbalance is so bad now gold spammers have to join Crimson, because Blue is full of the Easy Mode Players. Fix this mess or allow server transfers. 3 weeks in and it's already a joke. Good job, Easy Mode Players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishi Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 On 1/31/2016 at 1:30 PM, elliv said: Faction balancing is working, it's just the bots and goldsellers are the one who fill the slots to make both even While I hope it is, I do know some were able to join Cerulean while it was marked "Full" and Crimson "recruiting" this past weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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