RyuuSaru Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I have grew so tired of the stupid system. U need a weapon as a material to upgrade/ break through your hongmoon weapon. But the way to get it is so Bull Sh*t. It base on luck/ chance. It the way of the game to say Go F yourself if u unlucky. With such low dmg it so much harder to progress through the game. As well as the limited amount of key u can have. Please developer, please make the weapon drop chance have much higher rate for it job. Or just make it that that class can only get the weapon for that class. I hate thing that take chances or luck, it like gamble and i hate it. i love this game but the system for it is what making me wanna quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pornographic Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 It's not very difficult. I didn't do headstart, and I haven't played every day. I've got my first profane capped. It's not too different from other games where you have to farm a boss in a 1-2 hour dungeon with a low % chance of getting it. Now you farm something fast, with a 1/6 chance of getting it. Easier IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 The chance to get it is actually pretty high, if you don't like RNG mmos are generally the wrong type of game for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavis Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Is the best system maybe u are so lazy that u want to buy a better weapon :v... Upgrading the weapong and accesories like ring, neck and trinket are nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlessa Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 The first one can even be found in the Marketplace (this game's version of an Auction House). Not sure about later ones, but never had any troubles finding them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonaide Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 It wasn't always like this - other BnS versions (eg. CN) gave you the breakthrough weapons as quest rewards. It's just the way NCSoft decided on with the NA/EU version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigawatt Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 this is where their soft paywall comes in. The game is built so you should be buying class-specific keys to get your purple weapons. Those who don't are punished and sent to grind purgatory for not giving $$$ to NCSoft. As for blue weapons, that's all auction house so it shouldn't be a big deal. You should make more than you spend dealing with blue weapons there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavis Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 You can obtain the normal key doing dailies so what is the problem if you have a bad luck 100% of bad luck is your fault not NCsoft fault :v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kensho1996 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 13 minutes ago, Lemonaide said: It wasn't always like this - other BnS versions (eg. CN) gave you the breakthrough weapons as quest rewards. It's just the way NCSoft decided on with the NA/EU version. you still get a few as quest rewards .. and the prices in NA make it necessary to find ways to fund the game .. things might change in a month or more BUT atm one way they are trying to fund it is making you buy those keys from the store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladez Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 when you are in your 20's spam the crap out of dungeons and you will have a cool time getting gear and lvling up. I see a lot of people with great weapons by lvl 25-30. I don't think its that bad. Maybe you are trying to rush just a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kensho1996 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 also you could TRADE for them IF the darn chat wasn't turned off by so many of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonaide Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Just now, Kensho1996 said: you still get a few as quest rewards .. and the prices in NA make it necessary to find ways to fund the game .. things might change in a month or more BUT atm one way they are trying to fund it is making you buy those keys from the store When I saw the new case system I was thinking wow CS:GO must be doing something right lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cath Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 hour ago, RyuuSaru said: I have grew so tired of the stupid system. U need a weapon as a material to upgrade/ break through your hongmoon weapon. But the way to get it is so Bull Sh*t. It base on luck/ chance. It the way of the game to say Go F yourself if u unlucky. With such low dmg it so much harder to progress through the game. As well as the limited amount of key u can have. Please developer, please make the weapon drop chance have much higher rate for it job. Or just make it that that class can only get the weapon for that class. I hate thing that take chances or luck, it like gamble and i hate it. i love this game but the system for it is what making me wanna quit Maybe you want something that you can just be lazy with. I play mainly solo, and been doing all the quests, upgrading weapon and accessories has been quite manageable. I go to cross server dungeon queue to get material for the next upgrade. It can take a few tries, but it wasn't too bad. I don't, and never paid for premium membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylla Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Hard to upgrade? this guy must be special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kensho1996 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Just now, Lemonaide said: When I saw the new case system I was thinking wow CS:GO must be doing something right lol people often seem to think that the cost of this game to be run here in NA and EU is the same as in China and Korea .. the capitalism at it's worst is when the costs go up as too many corporations have the ability to increase the rates with no controls 2 minutes ago, Sylla said: Hard to upgrade? this guy must be special. no need to be mean .. several people have been having this issue lately and it is just bad luck (I notice i am getting WAY fewer unsealing charms since the patched yesterday to increase them) I know many of us were trading for our weapons but with the spam many of us have all our chat turned off.. making that near impossible BUT you could probably buy one in the Market cheap enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuuSaru Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 It is hard to upgrade if u have bad luck, like me. I will not complain if they make me grind to get more and open more. But with the limited amount of keys and charm u get, once u ran out of them and u still cant get the weapon u need to upgrade/ break through u doom. Cant do anything until u get more keys/ charm. But when u cant even progress because your dmg is just way too low to kill any mobs then how can u get anymore keys? This is why this system is stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuuSaru Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 Also im not lazy. I can play for hours to get the thing that i need. But what can i do when i have no keys/charm to open them? what else can i do? For all of u say that i want to take easy way out sorry but im not. For a system that based so much on luck like this and u only have such limited amount of resources it non-sense. Im willing to pay for the game but not going to pay to get stronger. I will pay for cosmetic or thing that make my play through easier. But im not gonna pay for thing that is supposed to be the feature in game for everyone. The feature that the player needed to actually progress through the game. For what im seeing right now im not sure i want to pay anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestCatGirl Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 so far i got breakthrough/transformation swords for my class in less than 10 tries each 2 of which were at the first try (huljikar lynblade and profane lynblade) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangtasia Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Once you have used all your keys/charms, this system is really a pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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