DPS Meter Request

[Drazon]

No thanks, whats next? you want "gear score" in the game too?

[PepeLeFrog]

On 1/27/2016 at 4:31 AM, Brainy said:

Let me tell you why DPS meter is not good.

 

As someone playing destroyer, I can put points into my grab to give people infinite chi and higher crit rate as long as I hold the boss (up to 6 sec). The cooldown on that is 18 seconds. This way I give the whole party increased damage and it adds up to way more than I could do by myself in that time.

 

Now, imagine if I would care about the DPS meter. I'd skip putting points into helping others do damage and skip CC-ing the boss altogether. I will most likely do a crapton more damage, but the overall party damage would suffer by a huge amount.

 

Please, if you want DPS meter, go play something else.

 

Finally someone with a brain.

Kids, look, this is the kind of BS that players like this man will suffer. 

And DPS meter will not just *cricket* up his usefulness in the pt, it will also *cricket* up YOUR ENTIRE PARTY'S DPS.

Now kids, do you still want that e-peen? 

And the kid who's talking about "facing reality, don't wanna live a lie blah blah.". Plz talk to me when you grow a brain.

[Nanashi]

Personal meter yes. Party meter no.

[Marqin]

4 minutes ago, Nanashi said:

Personal meter yes. Party meter no.

 

Why not make DPS meter just sum up DPS of whole party and display just that sum?

 

4 hours ago, Drazon said:

No thanks, whats next? you want "gear score" in the game too?

That's the comment I wanted to post when saw this topic :D

[DeathBunny]

No!, on the dps meter. It is not needed in this game. If you are so hard up on being on top all the time with a number go back to WOW. The roles for this game is everyone does dps, but at the sametime with the CC's and support heals it is going to skew the numbers to much, thus creates the elitist bullshit that has come into other games and made them actually not fun to play.

 

Before you jump on my shit for MY opinion, I have been playing games for a very long time and have seen what the dps mete can do to destroy the game. I am not afraid of what the meters are going to say. Just they are not needed for this game.

[ComatoseBellicose]

On 01/02/2016 at 10:55 AM, PepeLeFrog said:

Finally someone with a brain.

Kids, look, this is the kind of BS that players like this man will suffer. 

And DPS meter will not just *cricket* up his usefulness in the pt, it will also *cricket* up YOUR ENTIRE PARTY'S DPS.

Now kids, do you still want that e-peen? 

And the kid who's talking about "facing reality, don't wanna live a lie blah blah.". Plz talk to me when you grow a brain.

You're pretty derisive for someone with a forum name referencing fresh memes. Have some perspective , or at least some self awareness when you post in the manner you do.

 

DPS meters are not *exclusively* about dps. When people mention damage or dps meters, they are 9 times out of ten referring to any statistical summary of a fight. This would include such things as healing, aggro, mitigation and CC meters as well. I'd like to think that due to the lack of dedicated healers, crowd control is just as important (if not more so) than straight damage. Anyone can see that people lacking in damage but providing substantial CC is contributing. At least, Anyone with "half a brain" will, as you say.

 

The numbers and abilities used in a fight are visible already through the combat log, there is no reason to manually parse this information to get the desired effect if we can get a simple parser to give us the information in a better format. I want the information that's already available to everyone to be better presented, so that i can better myself in gear, skill, combo's etc.

[Dradiinmmo]

On 2/1/2016 at 11:50 PM, Drazon said:

No thanks, whats next? you want "gear score" in the game too?

Well considering you can look up any players gear right now.. gearscore would be a bit pointless.

[Ethria]

Nope. Just nope. DPSmeter destroyed Aion (one of the reasons actually), I don't wish to see BnS share the same fate.

 

Edit: Personal DPS meter is the same thing as party DPS meter. Why? Because lets say I'm a SM with 99999 dps. I compare with others and I'm on top of everyone. Next day in chat: "Blackram Supply Chain 4 man +2, 99999+dps". You don't need any dps meter to check your dmg, you see the difference yourself when you go in dungeons/pvp. Do you have the same dmg with Awakened Siren as you had with Awaken Infernal? If yes, then you're either blind or your rest gear sucks. How simple is that?

[Erufuun]

4 hours ago, Ethria said:

Nope. Just nope. DPSmeter destroyed Aion (one of the reasons actually), I don't wish to see BnS share the same fate.

 

Edit: Personal DPS meter is the same thing as party DPS meter. Why? Because lets say I'm a SM with 99999 dps. I compare with others and I'm on top of everyone. Next day in chat: "Blackram Supply Chain 4 man +2, 99999+dps". You don't need any dps meter to check your dmg, you see the difference yourself when you go in dungeons/pvp. Do you have the same dmg with Awakened Siren as you had with Awaken Infernal? If yes, then you're either blind or your rest gear sucks. How simple is that?

I'm sorry but - what?

 

The DPS meter is the single thing that kept me playing the game. I don't see how it destroyed the game in any way? Honest question - what happened to you regarding the DPS Meters in Aion that you feel it destroyed the game?

[Ethria]

I'm sorry but - what?

Dps meter was the single thing that kept you playing Aion..? Excuse me, but if the only reason to play a game is a 3rd party program which shows how big your e-peen is, then you're doing it wrong. Also, the whole question was wrong. What happend to me..? What happend to you and you find satisfaction only on how big your dps is..?

 

[Erufuun]

It was an honest question, come on. :( I'd really just like to know why you are so opposed to DPS meters in a game like AION.

 

Yes, a third-party tool was the thing that kept me playing the game - because it allowed me go further than the bore the easy end content PvE was, setting my own challenges and finding like-minded people trying to go beyond the last few percent of possible DPS.

 

PS: I mained a Chanter.

[836366_1452550077]

Hey guys, calm down a bit. I agree with ethria, BnS doesnt need a dps meter. In Aion it was absolutely necessary. If u can go in a dungeon only twice per week, u want to make sure u have guys in your team who know their job. But BnS has no cooldowns at all, if u fail a dungeon, just try it again, its relaxed here.

But in my opinion a dps meter should be available for those who want to check their skills, compare with others to get better or just to see if they are already on top. An idea could be a personal tool recording your dmg and in addition u can invite other players to get recorded there too. Surely they can decide by themselves if they accept or decline.

Sry for my english, im not as perfect as u guys xD

And greetz erufuun from Aion|Thor :) your chanter is fcking awsome^^

[shankyshanks]

you might want some score of some sort

 

my opinion put it in categories,

ex:                                            Damage                        

                                   total:                   names:

 

                            stuns/hold/knock down/special

                             attempts:      success:              names:

 

                                             Damage taken

                                Damage:      Death:            names:

 

                             

 

 

 

 

                                            

 

 

                             

[Laxxz]

On 27/01/2016 at 8:05 AM, Cadencia said:

Nah, it will just lead to butthurt ppls and ppls with penesis so long, they can't stand. And yep...even the girls will grow one. noone wants that

 

On 27/01/2016 at 8:05 AM, Deathshade said:

pls go back to wow. Dps meters are cancer. This  is not the game for it.

 

On 27/01/2016 at 8:07 AM, Snoway said:

why?

that players will have more reasons to Q Q?? 

 

"im sick of summoner destroyer make much more dmg plz boost summoner dmg"

??

i dont think so

 

On 27/01/2016 at 8:09 AM, Dradiinmmo said:

Agree 100%

Plus when you allow 3rd party add-ons you start to see a rise in hacked accounts.

 

On 27/01/2016 at 8:27 AM, Nessuno said:

why ask for an e-peen when this games is about boobies?

 

On 27/01/2016 at 8:28 AM, Aimscoes said:

Yeah, no DPS meter here please, just create a bunch of drama and kicking for no reason. 

Just like WoW. 

 

It will just be like. OMG my class so bad, no damage. 

KICK This idiot, he has no damage! (Maybe becuase he's new = KICK) 

 

I mean, there is really nothing good, i don't even use it in WoW today, i couldn't give a less fak about how much damage people doing, as long we finish it and 19/20 sits with it anyway so i cba. 

It also creates clutter anyway. 

 

All whining scrubs. Anyone who preaches AGAINST having INFORMATION visible is a complete moron.

 

"It will only feed people's e-peens"

 

Why because they're performing better? it should, stop crying because you're the kind of bad player who's excluded by these filtering methods.  

 

A DPS meter would do this game wonders, the ability to be able to min/max your damage is so important, ESPECIALLY in a game where individual skill matters so much. Without a GCD applying to all skills, and animation cancelling, unlike wow,  there is SO much more variance to an individuals damage, not based on gear. 

 

Don't listening to these whining children, implementing this will do wonders for the PvE scene in this game, allowing us a whole new level of depth to the differentiation between players.

[Cadencia]

8 hours ago, Laxxz said:

Why because they're performing better? it should, stop crying because you're the kind of bad player who's excluded by these filtering methods.  

 

Nah, iam not scared about this. Iam the kind of player who likes challenges. A personal DPS-Meter (already existent) is nice. I love to min/max.

But the problem is, that there wont be any support anymore (grab? why, it cost me dps / yeh, i do aircombos, just to have more dps then you).

Also new players with bad gear will get kicked pretty often, even if they play perfect.

Most of the DPS-Meter-Morons only see the DPS, nothing more. They don't care about support, they don't care about the gear of others. They just see the dps and their epeen.

 

But you are right, it will do wonders for the PvE Scene. It will make this com much more worse.

Iam sure many of us aren't afraid of a DPS-Tool. Many of us really like to improve their dps with min/maxing. But there will be morons around and they will flame, no matter the circumstances.

 

If you want a max DPS-group, get some mates together.

It would be a blessing, if this com would be helpfull. Then a DPS-Meter would be awesome. Think about the possibilitys. Someone plays bad. Another player sees that in the DPS-Meter and tells this poor guy "M8, you should use this skill instead of this, it will help". But guess what, most of the time there wont be tips, there will be "Git Gud Noob, kick inc"

[Yuhika]

Personally don't care if they add a meter.

 

If people get lame I'll just play with friends/clan only.

 

Games with this kind of loot and content always bring out the worst in the weak minded and the immature, that's that man, it sucks but you just gotta look the other way, play with the people that like you don't bug the people that don't.

[Azseri]

DPS meters are useless in Korean games, the PvE damage is never even close to balanced, they would never want to reveal just how much the difference is by showing people the numbers outright in this way, the only reason they try (and fail) so hard at making PvP balance is because they want it to be an e-sport (See the word: Money) they will never invest dev time or risk making the PvP balance worse for better PvE balance because they don't get anything from it (Again see the word: Money)

[Erufuun]

1 hour ago, Azseri said:

DPS meters are useless in Korean games, the PvE damage is never even close to balanced, they would never want to reveal just how much the difference is by showing people the numbers outright in this way, the only reason they try (and fail) so hard at making PvP balance is because they want it to be an e-sport (See the word: Money) they will never invest dev time or risk making the PvP balance worse for better PvE balance because they don't get anything from it (Again see the word: Money)

 

I'm not sure why classes should be 100% balanced for PvE DPS? Of course different classes have different PvE DPS.

[PreceptorTeeth]

A dps meter didn't break rift, infact it strengthened community interaction and sharing of skill rotations.

[nonyabusiness]

 Only ppl with small D**KS in real life care about DPS meters, they gotta act big somewhere

[Hongmoon]

Why would you need a dps meter? Everyone knows sin/fm have the highest dps. Do you really want to play a game where you get ostracized for not being either one?

[Erufuun]

2 hours ago, Hongmoon said:

Why would you need a dps meter? Everyone knows sin/fm have the highest dps. Do you really want to play a game where you get ostracized for not being either one?

 

Is that so? Everybody knows?

Well, if everybody knows I should be ostracized for not being either already.

 

 

What does this tell us? Well - for one, this means people don't actually know they are highest DPS because there is little to no hard data to back up this anecdotal assumption. Additionally I'd like to know how I do within my own class bracket. Even if there was one 'superior' DPS class - it wouldn't mean anything to me. I want to know how I do.

 

You, sir, do not seem to understand what DPS meters are used for.

DPS meters are for theorycrafting across all ranges. DPS meters are for practicing and optimizing rotations for every single class. DPS meters allow cross-class comparisons to happen, allow to determine damage percentages and show where and where not to tweak builds and gear.

 

Additionally not having access to a DPS meter would have the exact effect you proclaim to happen if they were around. If people had a set opinion on all classes, they'd ostracize people even if have no data to back it up and might be absolutely wrong because I couldn't show them that my class actually does worthwhile damage.

[Sorcerer21b]

Add a DPS meter. With all the over inflated egos already floating around out there. You want add something they can use to fluff it even more?

How about this. You swing the sharp, pointy end of whatever weapon you're using at the enemy, said enemy health drops and poof damage done.  There is no need for a DPS, it's a complete waste of time and resources, and only meant to fluff your own ego. 

[Erufuun]

Please enlighten me about your negative experience with DPS meters. Which game? What happened?

 

Because in my experience most of those inflated egos floating around are all talk, no action. Actual DPS monsters are competitive but forthcoming and helpful people - that's my anecdotal experience which is worth as much as yours.

 

You do not have the motivation to get deep into PvE DPS and this is completely fine. But at the same time why would you deny people who care about it the right to enjoy the game in an analytical matter? Because people on the internet and in F2P MMOs specifically are douchebags and would use anything to inflate their egos? DPS meters don't add or take anything from those and you can go out of their way the same manner you do now.

 

How do DPS meters negatively affect you, precisely?

 

 

 

 

[Ryuukishi]

Because of obnoxious players like Laxxz above. They behave like trash, act all haughty and elitist (bad elitists, though) and bring more toxcity into a game than there may already be. I agree there are a players who are honestly wanting the meter for self-improvements, but the reality will rather turn out to be that the self-imposed epeen-elitists will become even more disgusting attitude-wise and keep thinking that being mature is only related to cheese or porn.