TheMerfox Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Just now, ZigZack said: no its not gimme gimme gimme which brings back "Theres No Reason It Should Be Behind A PayWall" gimme gimme gimme would be saying everyone should get reduced ingame cost on things or that extra bonus xp or priority in queue. As I said earlier in this thread, the reason is "Games gotta make money, yo." You want luxury, pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minster Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 premium user maybe forget about the FACTION COSTUMES, lol there are a lot of them in the game which affect the experience, you will understand the feeling of non-pre users, we willing to pay for a 1-time-purchase wardrope rather than the premium wardrope. Think about it when you have tons of FACTION COSTUME that you CANNOT/SHOULD NOT/ABSOLUTELY NOT trash away, I can trash non-faction costumes and keep only 1 or 2 non-faction costumes I really like. But the FACTION COSTUMES affect the game/endgame experiences, it all about PvP or faction quests, can you do faction quests without the faction costumes? Lol, or maybe just provide FACTION COSTUMES WARDROPE SEPERATELY WHERE YOU CAN STORE YOUR FACTION COSTUME AND YOU CAN KEEP YOUR PREMIUM COSTUME WARDROPE FOR OTHER COSTUMES OR JUST PROVIDE A FREE WARDROPE SO THAT FREE USERS HAVE MOTIVATION TO BUY NCCOIN COSTUME? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndJerry Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Minster said: premium user maybe forget about the FACTION COSTUMES, lol there are a lot of them in the game which affect the experience, you will understand the feeling of non-pre users, we willing to pay for a 1-time-purchase wardrope rather than the premium wardrope. Think about it when you have tons of FACTION COSTUME that you CANNOT/SHOULD NOT/ABSOLUTELY NOT trash away, I can trash non-faction costumes and keep only 1 or 2 non-faction costumes I really like. But the FACTION COSTUMES affect the game/endgame experiences, it all about PvP or faction quests, can you do faction quests without the faction costumes? Lol, or maybe just provide FACTION COSTUMES WARDROPE SEPERATELY WHERE YOU CAN STORE YOUR FACTION COSTUME AND YOU CAN KEEP YOUR PREMIUM COSTUME WARDROPE FOR OTHER COSTUMES OR JUST PROVIDE A FREE WARDROPE SO THAT FREE USERS HAVE MOTIVATION TO BUY NCCOIN COSTUME? You have it. Buy the dragon bag thing to expand your vault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuintessenceHD Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Just now, ZigZack said: no its not gimme gimme gimme which brings back "Theres No Reason It Should Be Behind A PayWall" gimme gimme gimme would be saying everyone should get reduced ingame cost on things or that extra bonus xp or priority in queue. Wardrobe is a luxury feature/perk.. It is a EXTRA thing to give people incentive to get premium. It isn't a required feature for playing the game, it isn't like they blocked off friends list or limited non-premium clans to only rank 5 max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furholden Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Faction costumes dont take up many slots. Dont use it as an excuse to get wardrobe lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onene Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I wouldn't mind wardrobe being for premium only if they let us get more inventory/bank space. But guess what other stuff is behind a paywall? inv and bank space. I'm sitting with a full bank expanded 2 rows, 1 and a half row in inv. I don't even have half of the outfits available in game, its full of mats, fod, and consumables, I stopped getting outfits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuintessenceHD Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Onene said: I wouldn't mind wardrobe being for premium only if they let us get more inventory/bank space. But guess what other stuff is behind a paywall? inv and bank space. I'm sitting with a full bank expanded 2 rows, 1 and a half row in inv. I don't even have half of the outfits available in game, its full of mats, fod, and consumables, I stopped getting outfits. Inv and bank space isn't behind a pay wall, you can get dragon pouches :/ Sure it will take longer than just paying for them but something being behind a paywall means you cannot access it unless you pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndJerry Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Onene said: I wouldn't mind wardrobe being for premium only if they let us get more inventory/bank space. But guess what other stuff is behind a paywall? inv and bank space. I'm sitting with a full bank expanded 2 rows, 1 and a half row in inv. I don't even have half of the outfits available in game, its full of mats, fod, and consumables, I stopped getting outfits. Sell your mats. you can always buy em when you need em. I've been sitting at lv 45 for about a week now. If I need some space, I just sell knowing that mats will be much cheaper as the game ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZack Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Just now, AndJerry said: You have it. Buy the dragon bag thing to expand your vault. naw those spaces can be filled with other items. whole reason they even created the outfit wardrobe in the first place because outfits are a thing and there are many. and theres 0 reason why the wardobe is paywalled no ones come up with an excuse on why it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minster Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 minute ago, AndJerry said: You have it. Buy the dragon bag thing to expand your vault. Lol you think it enough? sorry but do you store stones/food/buff potion you not use yet/hammer/sub-job ingredients/upgrade ingredients....etc. You think in a short time you can buy enough bag to counter the faction costumes? lol "premium users" are so rich, they rich of times/money, i play only 1~2 hrs a day and i rather save my money to do other thing bigger than a "small monthly fee" just to have a single wardrope, if the premium have more worthy feature that ppl really need than I really dont complain but I'm not willing to pay a monthly fee for just a wardrope <=== that's a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatB Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Wardrobe is just bank slots, except even MORE restrictive. If you're fine with bank slots being behind a paywall, (and you don't get nearly enough dragon pouches free to fully unlock), then what's the big deal about wardrobe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furholden Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 There's absolutely no inventory issue if you play your cards right. Trust me, the same people whining about free wardrobe for free players are the ones who are going to collect just about every free costume there is out there without paying a cent to NCsoft and guess what, they're raging on forums because NCsoft already saw this coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onene Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) This game is Korean, is the wardrobe free on the KR server? If not then this thread is pointless, if it is, how come it's a luxury that you have to pay for on na/eu but it's a regular game feature for KR? Edited January 27, 2016 by Onene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minster Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, GnatB said: Wardrobe is just bank slots, except even MORE restrictive. If you're fine with bank slots being behind a paywall, (and you don't get nearly enough dragon pouches free to fully unlock), then what's the big deal about wardrobe? just an excuse of premium users tho lol, i think you buy premium just for the wardrope and scare that if the Dev really make the wardrope free, i dont need a costume wardrope, i just need a faction wardrope, understand? it not take up many space but it waste, for the grindy person, it is easy to get stuff you need, money to buy. I think about the future of this game, where there are just premium running around and the population is...<100 or maybe <50 per server fight together in the faction quest because ppl will soon realize wardrope is not worth their monthly fee lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minster Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, Furholden said: There's absolutely no inventory issue if you play your cards right. Trust me, the same people whining about free wardrobe for free players are the ones who are going to collect just about every free costume there is out there without paying a cent to NCsoft and guess what, they're raging on forums because NCsoft already saw this coming. haha sorry im not that kind of person tho, i just store the faction costumes and hammer/seals/sub-job ingredients- it's cheap but time waste. Think of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furholden Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Minster said: haha sorry im not that kind of person tho, i just store the faction costumes and hammer/seals/sub-job ingredients- it's cheap but time waste. Think of it My 2nd character doesnt even use the wardrobe because i have more than enough space without pouches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minster Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 And why premium users so stubborn about only the wardrope feature? Don't they have another feature to make money? Lol They could make it one-time-purchase or make money from shop costume, you can't encourage free user to spend money with the force. I know that some ppl will never spend a cent in the game but it just a few. Korea version not provide doesnt mean you cannot change that, TW version make those costumes expire in period of time, in case you dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZack Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Just now, Furholden said: My 2nd character doesnt even use the wardrobe because i have more than enough space without pouches. how many outfits does your 2nd character have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furholden Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Only faction costume. The others are not required to enjoy the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatB Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 11 minutes ago, Onene said: This game is Korean, is the wardrobe free on the KR server? If not then this thread is pointless, if it is, how come it's a luxury that you have to pay for on na/eu but it's a regular game feature for KR? The Korean version is pay to play (subscription) So yes, effectively the wardrobe is premium only. (along with everything else) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatB Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 *shrug* Create 2nd account. Use inventory slots to store all the mats/etc. your little heart desires. Mules have been around in MMO's forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onene Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 minute ago, GnatB said: *shrug* Create 2nd account. Use inventory slots to store all the mats/etc. your little heart desires. Mules have been around in MMO's forever. Does gameguard allow you to dual client? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZack Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 pay $15 so you have the "privilege" to store your $10-20 outfits from the shop you want to buy, please in an economical sense try to explain the reason behind that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furholden Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 11 minutes ago, GnatB said: *shrug* Create 2nd account. Use inventory slots to store all the mats/etc. your little heart desires. Mules have been around in MMO's forever. Sure, let's just have free wardrobe but make B&S a pay2play or pay2win game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZack Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Just now, Furholden said: Sure, let's just have free wardrobe but make B&S a pay2play or pay2win game. how does having a wardrobe make it pay2win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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