zapp002 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Furholden said: Lolwut you conveniently left out that no one would buy premium after that, which means a loss of a STABLE income for the company. Premiums always outweigh the occasional costume buyer. Please show me the numbers you are reffering to. I'd really like to see them. Because... that's just an oppinion you have, without any evidence. But I get it: You propably have bought premium and want to feel good about yourself/dont want to share the advantages you have over other f2p players. Maybe that's why its becoming more of an emotional and not rational discussion Edit: what you are leaving out, Furholden, is that on the Asian market this game runs well for over 4 years as a f2p. - They have the wardrobe - They have 5 charslots - They have profits Edited January 27, 2016 by zapp002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadameBlade Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 in all honesty, 13 pages about wardrobe availability? , if you want the cool stuff just pay up for it. Its like buying a car and wanting all the options for free, it isn't gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapp002 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) @Madameblade: please read before you post It's more like wanting to buy a car and the reseller rips out the backseat and trys to sell it to you for extra cash. Edited January 27, 2016 by zapp002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furholden Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, zapp002 said: Please show me the numbers you are reffering to. I'd really like to see them. Because... that's just an oppinion you have, without any evidence. But I get it: You propably have bought premium and want to feel good about yourself/dont want to share the advantages you have over other f2p players. Maybe that's why its becoming more of an emotional and not rational discussion Edit: what you are leaving out, Furholden, is that on the Asian market this game runs well for over 4 years as a f2p. - They have the wardrobe - They have 5 charslots - They have profits And Asian B&S is pay2win. Let's all include end-game gear in cash shop while we're at it shall we? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZack Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Just now, Furholden said: And Asian B&S is pay2win. Let's all include end-game gear in cash shop while we're at it shall we? ;) sure why not as long as it keeps giving them the cash they want if you so believe giving everyone wardrobe would not do. Edited January 27, 2016 by ZigZack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teffy Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Yes please Grandpa balls and soulstones in the cash shop naw plox.Finally I`ll make a use of this 70k coins I hold on my account... Or RNG boxes with purple hexa gems - yellow with 5 attack/100 lifesteal from knocked enemies, 3 attack/200 lifesteal,4 attack ruby,3 attack blue one,and of course 35 attack diamond.Now please...oh and dragon tiger weapon box too. How Rng boxes in Asia work? You open RNG box that has chance to give you another RNG box and inside the second RNG box you have chance to get one of the mentioned above...oh and the second rng box is tradable and you can put it in AH. Edited January 27, 2016 by Teffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Riku-Chan Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Really, again one of this QQ this QQ that Topic? I mean whats the Point, if u want it, spend 13€ a MONTH and u get it. Its just that simple, if u think its not worth it, dont buy it. But just stop this Topics, they are completly Pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furholden Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, Teffy said: Yes please Grandpa balls and soulstones in the cash shop naw plox.Finally I`ll make a use of this 70k coins I hold on my account... Lol Teffy i swear these F2P players want the game to fail before it even takes off. Hahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplethreat Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I'm shocked! People wanting stuff for free. Sounds like a bunch of Obama supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioncor Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 6 hours ago, Doowie said: Ah another thread of F2P player(s) complaining about something that they want for FREE (considering they are playing the game for free), and they're unhappy because they have to pay to obtain something ... I love these threads :D Wardrobe should be free though that's a no brainer. Guild Wars 2 has a even better wardrobe system that is completely free that is shared on the entire account and the characters you have on it not just one character. This is just greed on NCSoft's side which is normal for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZack Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Just now, Furholden said: Lol Teffy i swear these F2P players want the game to fail before it even takes off. Hahaha! people said the same thing about cabal 2... look at it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiTLZ Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Just sonn will be russian server bns. Where prem will cost 3,80$. Some people maybe make english translation for russian client. Just wait russian server =) But if speaking about EU i think that wardrobe should be free too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapp002 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 And here we go again: premium player elitist thinking and the entire reason they can treat the western audience like stupid sheep: most of them are. If a carseller would rip out the backseat an rent it to you on a monthly bases, you'd buy it, since you're saving the carseller. For the rest of us it just and insult to our intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furholden Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 It's hard to explain pay2win to a player who has never experienced it. I'm an Asian and i tried literally every MMORPG out there. The cash shop here is really fine. Trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZack Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Just now, Furholden said: It's hard to explain pay2win to a player who has never experienced it. I'm an Asian and i tried literally every MMORPG out there. The cash shop here is really fine. Trust me. so you know what i have and have not experienced? LOL you think selling end game items which you can only use if you're that level is pay2win then i feel sorry for you because i've seen far far worse. Edited January 27, 2016 by ZigZack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LdyDrgn Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 not reading the whole thread, but, i don't have an opinion on prem vs non-prem wardrobe. simply let us salvage or vendor everything. half my vault is full of things i cant destroy that i got from quests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapp002 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) @Furholden: Watch the youtube video again. I don't understand why you keep bringing up p2w as it was even an option in the west to make some bucks. It isn't. No. Stop it. Edited January 27, 2016 by zapp002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furholden Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 minute ago, ZigZack said: so you know what i have and have not experienced? LOL you think selling end game items which you can only use if you're that level is pay2win then i feel sorry for you because i've seen far far worse. So how does costumes prevent you from experiencing the game's story/pvp right up till the end? I'm just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapp002 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Furholden said: So how does costumes prevent you from experiencing the game's story/pvp right up till the end? I'm just curious. What are you even talking about? You keep bringing up those ridiculous statements, turning others words in their mouths. If you can't make a point, stop writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furholden Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 That's the trouble conversing with people who demand everything for free. I hope your welfare coupons can get you your next carton of beers! Cheers. /thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maaha Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Yea, I am premium and I think it should be accessible for all, this game is all about outfits and it's unfair to have all these in small inventory. Solution, only allow prem member to use it in the ESC menu, while non prem have to use the wardrobe somewhere on map, how about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polite Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I believe it should be available to all players as it is on eastern versions of the game I know a lot of people like to collect costumes I don't see a problem with it being free. Before someone dumb thinks im f2p, im not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZack Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Just now, Furholden said: So how does costumes prevent you from experiencing the game's story/pvp right up till the end? I'm just curious. i could care less about pvp. outfits in this game are collectables people like to collect stuff like these what do you not understand? but once they find they can't store their collectables in the proper collectable storage area that was "Made" for said collectables. Seeing it locked behind a paywall which it has no business being that way. Just now, Furholden said: That's the trouble conversing with people who demand everything for free. I hope your welfare coupons can get you your next carton of beers! Cheers. /thread. here you are again accusing us of demanding that we want everything for free.. get off your high horse. Edited January 27, 2016 by ZigZack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishi Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Maybe as a happy medium for the wardrobe for F2P, vs P2P would be: Add the wardrobe free for all users, however add it to where it is an account wide wardrobe for all premium players, so they do not have to buy a costume a 2nd time, or mail to their alts? Also allow it to only be used from anywhere for players paying for the subscription, and only at a NPC for free players to be able to use the wardrobe. Thus allowing all to use it, however the convenience of using it anywhere, for any characters on an account being linked to subscriptions only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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