Arena PVP is broken with Force Master

[Slyce]

19 minutes ago, Grimstar said:

off- topic: how do u even remove a mobile veil from a fm? or u have to wait it out?

Wait it out / use non-projectile skills
Mobile Veil is 15 sec on a 45 sec CD

[ItsPrimeTime]

Can we let this thread die pls.

[Windy]

No,the problem is actual I think the FM has way too much cc with the chill thingy and without any kind of effort : just spam LMB RMB on your target and you get it chilled in pvp.Any other classes requires some cd on their skills to be able to apply slow /root .The perma chill is not ok ,should be looked into ,imho-also for the unfair heal they have.

[Zerecas]

Pretty sure every classes have lots of CC in hand to dispose.

If it's that easy as you said, FM wouldn't be shitting on the top board in general.

FM heal is nothing against melee, it only works well with classes full of auto targeting range skills.

[Chloroform]

1 hour ago, Windy said:

No,the problem is actual I think the FM has way too much cc with the chill thingy and without any kind of effort : just spam LMB RMB on your target and you get it chilled in pvp.Any other classes requires some cd on their skills to be able to apply slow /root .The perma chill is not ok ,should be looked into ,imho-also for the unfair heal they have.

Can u please record how u just rbm lbm enemy w/o effort? :)
I want to see how fast u will get deflect or how fast u will hit in block

[Valiant]

1 hour ago, Zerecas said:

Pretty sure every classes have lots of CC in hand to dispose.

If it's that easy as you said, FM wouldn't be shitting on the top board in general.

FM heal is nothing against melee, it only works well with classes full of auto targeting range skills.

Not really, Destroyer is lack behind everyclass in cc cause they got drag skill and kick skill in same tree mean you have to get one skill only

While other classes got them spreadeted giving them full cc if they catch FM, Like Assissan /BD/Summoner/BM/SF/etc can keep you pinned down with knockdown for while cause of their short CD knockdown kick(Whatever it called in other classes), While destroyer punished with drag and one knockdown that with 30 CD
As well as that destroyer have no immune, Mean they almost easy to chill and not be able to charge always a disadvantaged, Destroyer is very slow mean you will get hitted with huge ranged dps and youcan't fight back cause you are slow class that require a cc to land one good attack on your enemy and not be able to move while attacking is shit too.
While other classes all can keep moving around FM and make nice dps so yah, Maybe it problem of Destroyer only 

[Hirukaru]

On 25-9-2016 at 2:35 PM, Valiant said:

Not really, Destroyer is lack behind everyclass in cc cause they got drag skill and kick skill in same tree mean you have to get one skill only

While other classes got them spreadeted giving them full cc if they catch FM, Like Assissan /BD/Summoner/BM/SF/etc can keep you pinned down with knockdown for while cause of their short CD knockdown kick(Whatever it called in other classes), While destroyer punished with drag and one knockdown that with 30 CD
As well as that destroyer have no immune, Mean they almost easy to chill and not be able to charge always a disadvantaged, Destroyer is very slow mean you will get hitted with huge ranged dps and youcan't fight back cause you are slow class that require a cc to land one good attack on your enemy and not be able to move while attacking is shit too.
While other classes all can keep moving around FM and make nice dps so yah, Maybe it problem of Destroyer only 

^doesnt play warlock. 

Destroyer is immune to cc during spin 2 win.
Destroyer got a shield
Destroyer got enough stuns. 


You say all other classes got more.
Well Warlock doesnt, warlock with Hongmoon ability can indeed kill fast, but it needs hongmoon skills. (Aka, stun + double knock up chain + Hongmoon bombard) plus with only a max of 3iframe abilities (ss, 1+f (which in pvp is not really used) and z (bastion). it has the lowest iframes of all classes.

Okay we got soulburn or a time distort, but then again, just spin 2 win to a corner and you are safe. 

[N3ro]

47 minutes ago, Hirukaru said:

^doesnt play warlock. 

Destroyer is immune to cc during spin 2 win.
Destroyer got a shield
Destroyer got enough stuns. 


You say all other classes got more.
Well Warlock doesnt, warlock with Hongmoon ability can indeed kill fast, but it needs hongmoon skills. (Aka, stun + double knock up chain + Hongmoon bombard) plus with only a max of 3iframe abilities (ss, 1+f (which in pvp is not really used) and z (bastion). it has the lowest iframes of all classes.

Okay we got soulburn or a time distort, but then again, just spin 2 win to a corner and you are safe. 

Warlock also has things going for it. It´s one of the hardest classes to fight *AS A SIN*!

 

While destro vs sin is likely around 50:50 warlock vs sin is pretty clearly warlock favored for the most part. It´s now a lot easier with party decoy, still does not solve the struggle completely...

[Valiant]

6 hours ago, Hirukaru said:

^doesnt play warlock. 

Destroyer is immune to cc during spin 2 win.
Destroyer got a shield
Destroyer got enough stuns. 


You say all other classes got more.
Well Warlock doesnt, warlock with Hongmoon ability can indeed kill fast, but it needs hongmoon skills. (Aka, stun + double knock up chain + Hongmoon bombard) plus with only a max of 3iframe abilities (ss, 1+f (which in pvp is not really used) and z (bastion). it has the lowest iframes of all classes.

Okay we got soulburn or a time distort, but then again, just spin 2 win to a corner and you are safe. 

Destroyer immune only to stun/knock back/daze during spin while Knockdown/Pierce parry skill break spin*

Warlock got Immune 5 seconds, Can reset , Got many skills to disable Destroyer to target them

Destroyer got 3 stuns of 18 to 30 to 1 min Cooldown, 1 Min cooldown stun need idiot to stun in red spin to get stunnned*

 

Warlock against Destroyer know for warlock higher hand on that match, Cause you pretty can eat Destroyer HP easily if they caught off guard while Destroyer need to try to avoid snares to be able to catch warlock or try to put some hits on them

 

[Hirukaru]

7 hours ago, N3ro said:

Warlock also has things going for it. It´s one of the hardest classes to fight *AS A SIN*!

 

While destro vs sin is likely around 50:50 warlock vs sin is pretty clearly warlock favored for the most part. It´s now a lot easier with party decoy, still does not solve the struggle completely...

Strange that my Knockdowns dont work.