MadMage Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 It would help if this thread were elsewhere, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidaru Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 This is news to me. As much as I really dont agree with this I can see why. Playing on tw/cn my mailbox was filled with spam mail. They really need to find a better way though to deal with the spam bots because this just isnt right at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazriel Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 21 minutes ago, MadMage said: It would help if this thread were elsewhere, I think. I know, but i couldn't decide where to post it. This isn't a bug report, nor general disgussion. Warpstatus already made a thread in bugreport (linked it earlier) and i met a forum about this in general too. I can add the related links to the main post if you want (done). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elurra Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 This does look like a bug or translation error to me. There might be a level restriction on when you can start sending mail, but definitely shouldn't have to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazriel Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 Unfortunately they wrote about this in support page, so they INTENDED to make us pay...I would realy apreciate a reason tho, because this is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majeswandar Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 except it still doesnt work if you do pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohkeus Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 4 hours ago, majeswandar said: except it still doesnt work if you do pay. Hah, really? I mean, that really sucks if you paid and it's not working, but at least that gives me hope that maybe the entirety of the mail system is bugged at the moment and same-account characters might still be able to mail each-other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
865804_1452550338 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Lols stop gold spammers? Are you kidding me, all the chats are spammed by gold spammers constantly, kind of too late, will not donate a cent till they remove this restriction, f2p players shouldn't be charged for most basic feature, with no mail there is no point of even making an alt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerred Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I really think this is a stupid restriction. I must say I am not a premium member, but because of this restriction, I might not even consider playing the game that much longer because I can't help my friends who will join me soon or anyone I might meet later in game. Now, I read someone comment on the other post. That one player mention this restriction suppose to make the gold distribution harder for the bot/gold-seller. This reason is good, but I think they also take away one of the most important function in game away from all non-premium players. I think gold sellers already found their ways around that because they are still selling it. Fix this please, NCSOFT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weslington Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 This is really low. I also can not even send a mail to my alt on the same account. It's rediculous to have to pay €5 or more to simply use the mail function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxness Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 This really was a major disappointment for me. I did realize it is for gold seller problem but as many have already said, they should come up with something else. It is not really appealing to play a game where you don't have all basic communication ways in your use :/ I don't see myself paying 5euros just to use mail in game, mail that in every other game I'm using a lot to help/communicate with friends and other people. We can only hope that they will come up something else, but I kind of doubt that will happen :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazriel Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Unfortunately i have to agree with you Foxness...Just look at the server name change we asked for. Got a simple "No" as answer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krosa Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 On 1/21/2016 at 0:52 PM, Shouteha said: This made me pretty speechless. Surely I would support the game at some point once I actually have more time to play like summer, but seeing how money hungry it is, it just disappointing. As much as I was up in arms like all of those who are not premium members, after taking a bit of time I somewhat understand where NCsoft is coming from by making the mail a cash purchase only ability. Think of it like this, it makes the gold the gold sellers have much harder to distribute to one another quickly and efficiently unless they too pay out some cash. It might be a rather poor way to handle the gold distribution/collection/reselling, but in terms of regular economics, a somewhat decent analogy is that the way NCsoft has things set up, by making the Gold sellers pay to mail what makes them money, they need to give NCsoft some cash, which in turn allows NCsoft to pay extra help in the form of GMs to more quickly dispose of the sellers. So in essence the gold sellers to do their own business are helping to pay people who will in turn work to get rid of them. However, I do hope that they are working to come out with a better way to handle it for true free to play users... Since quite a bit of the BnS launch has come across with the overall feel of "NCsoft just wants us to give them cash even though it's advertised as a F2P game." I'm premium myself, but if I was experiencing even half the issues F2P users are talking about it'd leave a terrible taste in my mouth and I doubt I'd still be playing even now so... Well, all I can offer is to stick it out, and hopefully things change for the better in an efficient and timely fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrient Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 On 1/21/2016 at 9:22 PM, Yamitri said: I have the exact same problem, charged $5 to my account and bought the starter kit, and my character is level 16. i am still unable to send mail, what gives? You have to CLAIM the Student Bundle pack in-game. Hit ESC and the yellow colored chest box (the same one that delivers your daily spin rewards) and voila~ mail unlocked for buying NCOINS. Just think of the $5 as paying a one-time-purchase of Blade & Soul. Pretty cheap for a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazriel Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 I can see your point Krosa, but i see that it's not working at all too. The chat is full of goldsellers in each zone, even in dungeon and arena lobby already, and i doubt that $5 will preven them from making busines. They pay $5 to get the mail unlocked and earn double or triple of that money within days. If NCSoft thought this will help, then they need to consider another solution, but i start to feel that putting this paywall on was their intention from the start, which is realy sad. Off: I wish there would be more premium members with your mentality. Unfortunately there's a tendency in f2p games, that paying players look down on free users and consider their problems as "whinning only". Respect for the exceptions :) 1 hour ago, 900040_1452550654 said: Just think of the $5 as paying a one-time-purchase of Blade & Soul. Pretty cheap for a game. Indeed it's cheap, but when they announced that it will be completely free to play and only cosmetic and premium membership will be cash-bond, it leaves a pretty bitter taste after experiencing this. They said there won't be anything that effects gameplay and only paying players can get...well mail DOES effect the gameplay in a serious way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzaki Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I can see how this is a measure against gold sellers but I don't think it'll be all that effective, while still screwing over their actual player-base. At least there are no restrictions to alt accounts and it does kind of make sense so that people just don't spam new accounts and just trade between them. But they definitely need to change it so it is more accessible to players without forcing to make actual real-money purchases (i.e. restrict the amount of mail you can send as a free player, restrict sending in-game currency, etc.). I wonder, does the mailing restrictions apply for the Initiate Pack buyers because that would be even more messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazriel Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 12 minutes ago, Fuzaki said: ... I wonder, does the mailing restrictions apply for the Initiate Pack buyers because that would be even more messed up. Well since Initiate packs costs real money it should lift the restriction, tho others mentioned earlier, that their mail is still blocked after purchasing ncoin, so i think it's kinda bugged for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyron Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Measure against gold sellers... right. I created a new chat tab, without the global channels because of their constant spam. Also I'm level 15 and have bought premium membership, yet I can't even send a mail. This is ridiculous. As is the very idea that sending in-game mails should be restricted by purchases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disguymAn Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I bought an extra character slot, but I still can't mail items.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHooligan Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The whole idea is stupid, yeah I get that free players have restriction, but a simple mail? lol and if it against gold sellers, restrict the gold that you can send to players, just like in Gw2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazriel Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 I would gladly accep the fact that i can't send money in mail at all, if i have the ability to send mails to anyone (from banker npc) in general. Goldsellers take on a new method. DO NOT stay in one place longer than a fes sec, or you'll get whisp-spammed by random bots. I made that mistake to stay near a bank npc for a few min, and since that i'm keep getting whisp about the same goldselling website. I report-ban each, but they just change the character and keep comming back. Do i realy need to change my character's name to get some rest? (Also bots seems to take on new habit: they use some easy words, like Lance in their name and add the random setsgko after it. Is it because NCSoft put some anti-bot stuff in use?) So yeah, goldsellers can't be stopped by blocking mails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kunyo Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 the funny thing is how they are keeping silent about this instead of giving us an answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kunyo Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 we should be able to at least send mail to our own characters like they themselves mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazriel Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 23 hours ago, Kunyo said: the funny thing is how they are keeping silent about this instead of giving us an answer You know, i think they will never answer to us, unless we can gather enough attention...but i think 2 pages of discussion isn't enough :( And in other threads some player said they can send mails to their alts, but yeah, it's still totaly blocked for me too, or i'm looking in the bad place :/ (My positive self still hopes that after the hype is over, the goldsellers will get bored of bns and they will remove the paywall...shh, don't blow my dreams away) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyH Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I kind of skimmed through so idk if anyone mentioned this but I've already payed $5 like some of you, I cant send mail either.. It'd be nice to know how much Ncoin had to be spent but I assume they're pushing for the monthly subscription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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