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 change GTA to replace guns with pillows because murder is also "not ok".

 Sounds like a great game! I would buy it! I'll shoot a pillow at some random pedestrian and send them flying accross the screen!

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Rahaya   

Mk let me ask you then: What was your point, originally? "People should not be offended by A (the edited quest) if they are not also offended by B (this other quest)." It also seemed as if you were saying that B was worse than A and should generate more outrage. That's how I read it, and my responses have been in line with that understanding. If I misunderstood then I apologize. 

Re: asian stereotyping: a lot of people are playing this game because they have an asian kawaii culture fetish. I'm not one of them, and personally I'd like to see more westernization of things, but I know it's unlikely to happen. 

My point originally is that this is all very silly. Presumably people don't play games looking for real life examples of everything they experience in the game. Why was dozens of equally valid concerns not a problem? Because it was part of the game. That is quite an assumption on your part, as well. Here I was thinking people were playing this game for action combat, flying, and boobs. I would definitely not like to see more westernization, as that apparently means replacing and removing words for being too foreign and Asian culture is just so complex and bizarre that your poor Western minds just cannot grasp it.

 

Also, several people in this thread are misinformed. LWS explanation of the quest quite clearly states that Ma Ture, in other words, the MALE NPC is the one that was forced to marry the woman. So all of you screaming that the quest was depicting *cricket*? 

 

Yeah, about that.

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BigJ01   

And yet there it is in the game, produced in Asia.

God forbid we portray someone doing something wrong in a game.

How about we change GTA to replace guns with pillows because murder is also "not ok".

Yes because it's opposite for the west (besides Europe) and the east. In the west parents are ok with violence and not nudity, in the east parents are ok with nudity and not violence.

By nudity I just mean sexual things as well. They changed it so it wouldn't affect the west. Also NCsoft exclusively meant outfits when talking about censorship.

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Murdering 80% of the people you meet: it's just a game.

Stealing clothing from women: unacceptable misogyny.

Arguing about the perceived morality of player characters in a videogame which you spend a majority of your time killing everything you meet then robbing their corpses is silly.

The spiders carry money... enough said..

 

 

 

Yes because it's opposite for the west (besides Europe) and the east. In the west parents are ok with violence and not nudity, in the east parents are ok with nudity and not violence.

The game is rated M! "parents" have no business in this discussion, but assuming this line of thought were valid: what's with the vegas showgirl style outfits still being in there?

The truth is this isn't about parents, it's about pandering to people like Anita Sarkeesian who represent bitter non-gamers.

 

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There is nothing wrong with nudity. I honestly don't understand why it's such a taboo issue in a video game, when the porn industry is flourishing, there are countless adult magazines (who still buys those I wonder) and even the "respectable" movies have lots of tits, butts and the occasional sneak peaks at genitalia. And for a game with such complex character creation where it is so easy to create an unwanted abomination, nudity is more welcome than ever. Not that I am trying to protest or something, but I just find humanity akward this way.

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Hiei   

I think people are blowing this out of all proportion, as long as they don't start making sweeping changing to characters & the clothes they wear. I don't see the problem with them making minor edits to silly story quests. People are taking the literally interpretation of "We won't censor the game". When really anyone with common sense should consider the bigger picture. Pointing to one instance of a minor edit, then screaming "you're censoring, the censor!" isn't a common sense argument. 

 

What should be considered is if they're staying true to the overall spirit of the promise. Have they made big sweeping changing to the game? Have they censored large chunks of what could be considered somewhat adult content? If the answer to both of these questions is no. Then I suggest you guys get a little prospective instead of getting bent out of shape over silly things. Unless you want to construct one big slippery slope fallacy, in which case go right ahead. Just don't expect to the taken seriously. 

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No, I am not talking about the outfits. I am talking about a specific side quest. Yes, I do read them. The side quest in question will be marked as a spoiler and will be a quote from another thread.

 

 
 

 

Even if you agree with what was done (I don't. I REALLY REALLY don't) It is still censorship. But NCSOFT claimed there would be no censorship. Now, they might try to backpedal and say they were only referring to the clothes. However, I'll post three sites that claim that NCSOFT said there won't be any censorship or the game will be completely uncensored. 

 

http://nichegamer.com/2015/05/rejoice-no-censorship-or-fatigue-system-for-the-western-version-of-blade-soul/

http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/05/21/blade-game-wont-be-pay-to-win/

http://www.siliconera.com/2015/05/22/western-version-of-blade-soul-will-be-free-to-play-uncensored-and-will-have-no-fatigue-system/

 

Not only is this censorship, but they are hiding away cultural aspects of the eastern areas. They are insulting the players, the creator of the quest, and ultimately changing and removing the culture, history, and folk lore of the eastern part of our would. The fact that this game has an Asian theme is, at least for me, a major selling point. Most MMOs take place in the same old boring High European Fantasy setting. We finally get a fantasy Asian setting, only for NCSOFT to take aspects of it away for a minority of players. I mean lets face it. The ones who will keep playing this game far after launch are the ones who love this type of setting. They don't want the world of Blade & Soul to be westernized, they just want it translated. 

 

 

What is wrong with you? "hiding away cultural aspects of the eastern areas" you are saying this quest is so important because it shows what Asian males do? lol, I dont think many Asian males would agree with you and I love all the people in this thread who go on about "Oh there are worse things in the world blah blah" - you will grow up to be like a friends old boss - this guy ran a phone shop and used to SNIFF the seats of young girls and women after they left who would come in to buy mobile phones, frankly to me that's sick - and as much as I am sure you have all been in war zones and worse things, this is what you care about?

 

Also all the people who play on Asian servers and love this quest - why not just leave NA/EU because you want "a better ping to pvp" and go back or just mod your client so you can enjoy your view on "cultural aspects of the eastern areas" because you *obviously* know everything about them because you watched a few animes....

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AttacKat   

Not only is this censorship ... They don't want the world of Blade & Soul to be westernized, they just want it translated. 

 

Source: http://www.bladeandsouldojo.com/topic/5676-ncsoft-west-addresses-censorship-concerns/

 

Due to ESRB guidelines, however, our marketing material must abide by a different set of considerations than the final product. This is why Blade & Soul's rating is listed as "pending." It is NCsoft West's intention to accurately depict the game in its original, unaltered form, with only minor adjustments for gameplay considerations.

 

 

2. SEX

Allusions to or depictions of acts of sexual violence

For example: *cricket*, molestation, sexual assault

 

Allusions or depictions of necrophilia or any other sexual acts

For example: Sexual fetishes

 

Graphic and/or excessive depictions of nudity or sexual situations

For example: Overtly sexualized depictions of a character's body parts, such as breasts, buttocks, etc., partial or full nudity (e.g., female breasts, pubic hair, genitalia), depictions of sex or sexual references (e.g., intercourse, oral sex, masturbation)

 

Ridicule, references to or portrayals of individuals with sexually transmitted disease

For example: Venereal diseases

 

NCSoft doesn't make the final approval here, the rating is from the ESRB board.

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Hiei   

 

The quote is from 2012 dude, I'm not sure it carries much relevance today. Back from when they originally intended to release the game before they screwed us for 3 years. 

 

We would of had Blade & Soul much sooner, if they didn't waste all their time & attention on the flop that is Wild Star. Although I suppose in some sense it's a good thing, as I'd of likely already had my fill of the game if it had of released back then. Now I guess to experience it for the first time with a lot of quality of live improvements. 

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BigJ01   

The spiders carry money... enough said..

 

The game is rated M! "parents" have no business in this discussion, but assuming this line of thought were valid: what's with the vegas showgirl style outfits still being in there?

The truth is this isn't about parents, it's about pandering to people like Anita Sarkeesian who represent bitter non-gamers.

 

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Have no idea who Anita is, but what I was trying to say is, "is it ok to make this game more sexual than it already." We already have all the sexy costumes so we don't need anymore. Remember this is a game not interactive mild p0rn, if you want sexual fantasies go watch your p0rn.

The only reason I see people having an issue with this is perverts who can't draw the line between sexual feelings and fun, everything doesn't need to be perverted in order to have fun.

 

There is nothing wrong with nudity. I honestly don't understand why it's such a taboo issue in a video game, when the porn industry is flourishing, there are countless adult magazines (who still buys those I wonder) and even the "respectable" movies have lots of tits, butts and the occasional sneak peaks at genitalia. And for a game with such complex character creation where it is so easy to create an unwanted abomination, nudity is more welcome than ever. Not that I am trying to protest or something, but I just find humanity akward this way.

Just because nudity is mostly of women and it's mostly disrespectful, porn included. The only reason porn exists is because it's in such high demand and so accessible that it would be impossible to stop. Sex sells, and that's why movies use it too but there's no reason to bring it to video games when you can just go watch porn or, maybe, do stuff in real life.

When people say "nudity" is fine that does not mean it's ok for tons of naked girls to be walking around, it just means it's not something to be ashamed of. But the body should be respected and walking around in public naked or showcasing your nude body is not respectful to your body.

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And still, no one can actually counter the argument that has been brought up plenty of times here. The basis of this game and many others is actually taking human life and is acceptable since it is fantasy, but jokes about perverts and outdated/completely unheard of cultural laws such as marrying someone who steals your clothes is unacceptable... ok.

 

A game about shooting people doesn't make you think murder is okay. Can you derive pleasure from it? Hmm, I don't think anybody plays a game that's not interesting. Think GTA.

 

A game about stabbing people that has a ridiculous storyline about a pervert and ridiculous cultural customs doesn't make you think being a pervert is okay, nor does it make you think you should start a cult that demands women follow the tradition. Can you get a giggle out of it? Same answer...

 

Watching something unfold or even being a part of it in a fantasy doesn't mean you believe it's okay to do in reality. I would never steal someone's clothes or do anything that pervert does.

However, it does prepare me for other people's ideas and actions thanks to exposure. But censoring the story because he's a ridiculous pervert and I'm not allowed to develop my own thoughts on the subject because someone deems it "wrong"? This isn't recess time at kindergarten. 

 

Everyone just gouge your eyes out and pop your ear drums. Anything you ever hear or see about how the world is makes you become exactly that. 

The world is not a perfect bubble and never will be; do you know why? Because your definition of perfection and "wrong" is subjective, just as mine is. 

 

If the story was like that in the beginning, leave it. I'm not going to snag a job as a localization team member for some Batman game and change the Penguin's representation as a penguin to a seal just because a country reveres penguins as a high status symbol. No, if people from the country bought the game and expected that manipulation like what is happening here, what's going to happen to them when they meet someone foreign to them who holds no reverence for penguins? Burn him at the stake? 

 

It's a silly example, but honestly. Trashy things happen in the world. Representations of them in a video game should not be censored, especially if that's the original content. They help you to LEARN about the world, make your own judgments, and grow. 

 

Also, it's not the responsibility of -any- member of a group to make reprimands for things that happened in the past in which they were never a part of. Men do not need to make up for what happened in the past due to previous generations, as some people seem to believe (whether they consciously think they do or not). This isn't a sexist argument about why it should stay, this is an argument that it should stay because censorship of any kind is completely counterproductive to development of our society.

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AttacKat   

The quote is from 2012 dude, I'm not sure it carries much relevance today.

 

Has the rating rules changed since 2012?

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Hiei   

Just because nudity is mostly of women and it's mostly disrespectful, porn included. The only reason porn exists is because it's in such high demand and so accessible that it would be impossible to stop. Sex sells, and that's why movies use it too but there's no reason to bring it to video games when you can just go watch porn or, maybe, do stuff in real life.

When people say "nudity" is fine that does not mean it's ok for tons of naked girls to be walking around, it just means it's not something to be ashamed of. But the body should be respected and walking around in public naked or showcasing your nude body is not respectful to your body.

 

While I disagree with making the game anymore sexualised than it already is, I do take massive issue with your conclusion. Pornography has just as much right to be in video games as war does in video games. They're all forms of human expression. Please don't form arguments similar to right wing demagogues, who are thoroughly anti video game. Any subject matter should & can be tackled in any form of media. There's nothing that should be relegated exclusively to the realm of movies, it's a form of human expression & it's art.

 

I'll repeat, this game shouldn't be made into anymore of an adult sexulised experience, I don't want that myself. This type of game doesn't suit that type of setting. I'm happy with the current levels of skimpy outfits thank you. However to make the argument that a perfectly natural part of being human, sexual conduct shouldn't be tackled in video games is downright silly. That being said, I don't know why you all are even tackling the subject on this forum. It doesn't seem a fitting place to have this type of conversation.   

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And still, no one can actually counter the argument that has been brought up plenty of times here. The basis of this game and many others is actually taking human life and is acceptable since it is fantasy, but jokes about perverts and outdated/completely unheard of cultural laws such as marrying someone who steals your clothes is unacceptable... ok.

 

A game about shooting people doesn't make you think murder is okay. Can you derive pleasure from it? Hmm, I don't think anybody plays a game that's not interesting. Think GTA.

 

A game about stabbing people that has a ridiculous storyline about a pervert and ridiculous cultural customs doesn't make you think being a pervert is okay, nor does it make you think you should start a cult that demands women follow the tradition. Can you get a giggle out of it? Same answer...

 

Watching something unfold or even being a part of it in a fantasy doesn't mean you believe it's okay to do in reality. I would never steal someone's clothes or do anything that pervert does.

However, it does prepare me for other people's ideas and actions thanks to exposure. But censoring the story because he's a ridiculous pervert and I'm not allowed to develop my own thoughts on the subject because someone deems it "wrong"? This isn't recess time at kindergarten. 

 

Everyone just gouge your eyes out and pop your ear drums. Anything you ever hear or see about how the world is makes you become exactly that. 

The world is not a perfect bubble and never will be; do you know why? Because your definition of perfection and "wrong" is subjective, just as mine is. 

 

If the story was like that in the beginning, leave it. I'm not going to snag a job as a localization team member for some Batman game and change the Penguin's representation as a penguin to a seal just because a country reveres penguins as a high status symbol. No, if people from the country bought the game and expected that manipulation like what is happening here, what's going to happen to them when they meet someone foreign to them who holds no reverence for penguins? Burn him at the stake? 

 

It's a silly example, but honestly. Trashy things happen in the world. Representations of them in a video game should not be censored, especially if that's the original content. They help you to LEARN about the world, make your own judgments, and grow. 

 

Also, it's not the responsibility of -any- member of a group to make reprimands for things that happened in the past in which they were never a part of. Men do not need to make up for what happened in the past due to previous generations, as some people seem to believe (whether they consciously think they do or not). This isn't a sexist argument about why it should stay, this is an argument that it should stay because censorship of any kind is completely counterproductive to development of our society.

I'll point it out simply. You give the example of murder and violence in games also being bad, well that's just really what games are about. In the same way, perverted and sexual feelings are what porn is about. I don't think you could give me a good reason why they should be combined without coming off as a pervert.

Not to mention the reason violence is ok and sex is not is because people actually realize that murder is terribly wrong, but sex on the other hand is a common everyday thing. So showing perverted this is not ok because more people will not know the difference, proof? This entire thread right here is full of people who think it's actually morally right.

While I disagree with making the game anymore sexualised than it already is, I do take massive issue with your conclusion. Pornography has just as much right to be in video games as war does in video games. They're all forms of human expression. Please don't form arguments similar to right wing demagogues, who are thoroughly anti video game. Any subject matter should & can be tackled in any form of media. There's nothing that should be relegated exclusively to the realm of movies, it's a form of human expression & it's art.

 

I'll repeat, this game shouldn't be made into anymore of an adult sexulised experience, I don't want that myself. This type of game doesn't suit that type of setting. I'm happy with the current levels of skimpy outfits thank you. However to make the argument that a perfectly natural part of being human, sexual conduct shouldn't be tackled in video games is downright silly. That being said, I don't know why you all are even tackling the subject on this forum. It doesn't seem a fitting place to have this type of conversation.

1. Just refer to my post above about why porn is not ok but war is. Basically people know that violence is wrong but they don't necessarily know what kind of sexual behavior is wrong.

2. Why did you even ask why people are talking about this on the forum when you clearly are joining the discussion?

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While I disagree with making the game anymore sexualised than it already is, I do take massive issue with your conclusion. Pornography has just as much right to be in video games as war does in video games. They're all forms of human expression. Please don't form arguments similar to right wing demagogues, who are thoroughly anti video game. Any subject matter should & can be tackled in any form of media. There's nothing that should be relegated exclusively to the realm of movies, it's a form of human expression & it's art.

 

I'll repeat, this game shouldn't be made into anymore of an adult sexulised experience, I don't want that myself. This type of game doesn't suit that type of setting. I'm happy with the current levels of skimpy outfits thank you. However to make the argument that a perfectly natural part of being human, sexual conduct shouldn't be tackled in video games is downright silly. That being said, I don't know why you all are even tackling the subject on this forum. It doesn't seem a fitting place to have this type of conversation.   

 

Sex is a valid subject matter for video games.  However, it's up to the people marketing the game to decide whether they want to make it part of their game, and to what extent.

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Hiei   

1. Just refer to my post above about why porn is not ok but war is. Basically people know that violence is wrong but they don't necessarily know what kind of sexual behavior is wrong.

2. Why did you even ask why people are talking about this on the forum when you clearly are joining the discussion?

 

1) That's quite possibly the most silly thing I have ever read. I can't take you seriously anymore sorry. If two or however many adults consent, then sexual relations are fine. Animals & children cannot consent, it's that simple, zero grey area. 

 

2) Maybe to change the subject to something more appropriate, an give closure to the conversation. Although after reading the reply you left me.... Just wow, I can see that won't be possible.  

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1) That's quite possibly the most silly thing I have ever read. I can't take you seriously anymore sorry.

2) Maybe to change the subject to something more appropriate, an give closure to the conversation. Although after read the reply you left me.... Just wow, I can see that won't be possible.

If you think the argument was silly that's just you, maybe you've been desensitized as well. But if you honestly think people aren't influenced by media (games/shows/news/movies) in a sexual sense I have no idea what world you live in.

Example: twerking is now a big trend, although it might have been around before it was never this popular and people would've had at least a little decency to not do it in public or on tv. Same with booty shorts where girls butts literally just hang halfway out.

Now do you see a new huge popular trend in violence or murder? No, and that's because it's harder for people to tell the difference between what's right and wrong when it comes to sexual things because they're normal whereas killing people is not.

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I'm LOLing so hard at the White Knights and fems who want the change cuz of "muh feels" & "U iz sexist!!1"

 

News flash people : Its a game. Real woman are not having their underwear stolen and its meant for comedic effect. I'm sorry my sense of humor and views are different?

 

Also before people wanna sling more mud into this thread here are some links to gaming related 'issues' :

 

For Violence - http://www.healthline.com/health-news/violent-video-games-create-aggression-but-they-do-cause-kids-to-commit-081415#5

 

For Sexism - http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/04/10/new-study-finds-no-link-between-gaming-and-sexist-attitudes/

 

For the positives of Gaming - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/07/video-games-good-for-us_n_4164723.html

 

Notice how they are neutral sites.

 

Personally, I'm okay with what NcSoft chooses to do on the 'pervy quest' though I would be a little ticked to see any outfits changed. I would like to enjoy my vanity based costumes to remain as they were meant to be. Not the special snowflake PG-PG version. Kay? k

 

~Lil_Kizuna

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BigJ01   

I'm LOLing so hard at the White Knights and fems who want the change cuz of "muh feels" & "U iz sexist!!1"

 

News flash people : Its a game. Real woman are not having their underwear stolen and its meant for comedic effect. I'm sorry my sense of humor and views are different?

 

Also before people wanna sling more mud into this thread here are some links to gaming related 'issues' :

 

For Violence - http://www.healthline.com/health-news/violent-video-games-create-aggression-but-they-do-cause-kids-to-commit-081415#5

 

For Sexism - http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/04/10/new-study-finds-no-link-between-gaming-and-sexist-attitudes/

 

For the positives of Gaming - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/07/video-games-good-for-us_n_4164723.html

 

Notice how they are neutral sites.

 

Personally, I'm okay with what NcSoft chooses to do on the 'pervy quest' though I would be a little ticked to see any outfits changed. I would like to enjoy my vanity based costumes to remain as they were meant to be. Not the special snowflake PG-PG version. Kay? k

 

~Lil_Kizuna

No ones talking about costumes, and there are no white knights on here because no ones suggesting costumes get taken away. The entire point of this thread was people were angry they couldn't steal panties anymore. If you find that comedic then yes, I'd have to say your sense of humor is a little messed up

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Hiei   

I'm LOLing so hard at the White Knights and fems who want the change cuz of "muh feels" & "U iz sexist!!1"

 

News flash people : Its a game. Real woman are not having their underwear stolen and its meant for comedic effect. I'm sorry my sense of humor and views are different?

 

Also before people wanna sling more mud into this thread here are some links to gaming related 'issues' :

 

For Violence - http://www.healthline.com/health-news/violent-video-games-create-aggression-but-they-do-cause-kids-to-commit-081415#5

 

For Sexism - http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/04/10/new-study-finds-no-link-between-gaming-and-sexist-attitudes/

 

For the positives of Gaming - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/07/video-games-good-for-us_n_4164723.html

 

Notice how they are neutral sites.

 

Personally, I'm okay with what NcSoft chooses to do on the 'pervy quest' though I would be a little ticked to see any outfits changed. I would like to enjoy my vanity based costumes to remain as they were meant to be. Not the special snowflake PG-PG version. Kay? k

 

~Lil_Kizuna

 

Pretty much the same here, minor changes to quests are fine. Huge sweeping changing to costumes or the overall theme of the game are not. The game should be presented mostly as is, not made anymore perverted to appease silly people who want to better create a virtual waifu. It also shouldn't be hijacked by the feminists you want to micromanage other peoples lives, because they have nothing better to do than whine about their first world problems. 

 

Rather than getting away from the computer & actually tackling real gender decimation issues, which they pretend to care deeply about. 

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rocdog   

I'm LOLing so hard at the White Knights and fems who want the change cuz of "muh feels" & "U iz sexist!!1"

 

News flash people : Its a game. Real woman are not having their underwear stolen and its meant for comedic effect. I'm sorry my sense of humor and views are different?

 

Also before people wanna sling more mud into this thread here are some links to gaming related 'issues' :

 

For Violence - http://www.healthline.com/health-news/violent-video-games-create-aggression-but-they-do-cause-kids-to-commit-081415#5

 

For Sexism - http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/04/10/new-study-finds-no-link-between-gaming-and-sexist-attitudes/

 

For the positives of Gaming - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/07/video-games-good-for-us_n_4164723.html

 

Notice how they are neutral sites.

 

Personally, I'm okay with what NcSoft chooses to do on the 'pervy quest' though I would be a little ticked to see any outfits changed. I would like to enjoy my vanity based costumes to remain as they were meant to be. Not the special snowflake PG-PG version. Kay? k

 

~Lil_Kizuna

 

Don't forget this one that got a lot of attention on Reddit:

 

Pornography Users Hold More Gender Egalitarian Attitudes Than Nonusers in a Representative American Sample

 

I don't know where they found people who don't "use porn", but apparently they're out there, and they don't think highly of women.

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No ones talking about costumes, and there are no white knights on here because no ones suggesting costumes get taken away. The entire point of this thread was people were angry they couldn't steal panties anymore. If you find that comedic then yes, I'd have to say your sense of humor is a little messed up

I suggested if they changed the costumes. Taking one's word back for one thing leads to suggest that another might also be false. No white knighting? I could be wrong but I'm sure I seen some of that here. Because stealing panties in a game is bad yet bashing someone face in isn't? If I were you I'd get my priorities straightened out and the first step to that would most likely be to NOT play a game which "endorses such actions". I do indeed have a dark sense of humor~ Guilty as charged (´•ω•`๑) Then again I'm not  overly sensitive over simple things.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

~Lil_Kizuna

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Hiei   

Regardless, there's plenty of perverted mods for Tera for people who want things more to their own taste. I'm sure this game will spawn plenty as well. Just make them client side so other people can choose if they want to participate. I at least have more respect for those arguments, than I do from the feminist voices here who want to censor everyone. Because apparently they think society can't be trusted with certain things.

 

What you usually find however is that it's the feminist themselves that can't be trusted with those things. They assume everyone thinks like them, so therefore it must be banned for everyone. It's very similar to the anti-gay religious leaders, most of them want it banned because they don't like how it turns them on. It's not a coincidence that a lot of feminist men have a violent relationship history. 

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Regardless, there's plenty of perverted mods for Tera for people who want things more to their own taste. I'm sure this game will spawn plenty as well. Just make them client side so other people can choose if they want to participate. I at least have more respect for those arguments, than I do from the feminist voices here who want to censor everyone. Because apparently they think society can't be trusted with certain things.

 

What you usually find however is that it's the feminist themselves that can't be trusted with those things. They assume everyone thinks like them, so therefore it must be banned for everyone. It's very similar to the anti-gay religious leaders, most of them want it banned because they don't like how it turns them on. It's not a coincidence that a lot of feminist men have a violent relationship history. 

More or less a bad case of Sargon's Law. Whenever an ideologue makes a character judgment upon others, that judgment is usually true of themselves.

 

~Lil_Kizuna

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No, I am not talking about the outfits. I am talking about a specific side quest. Yes, I do read them. The side quest in question will be marked as a spoiler and will be a quote from another thread.

 

It doesn't bother me. B&S is catering to a different market in the West than it is in Asia, and I'd rather have more female players feel comfortable playing the game than have them made uncomfortable by what amounts to male adolescent humor.  Obviously the West (or the US at least) has a different view of how violence is portrayed vs how sexual situations are portrayed, so let's not pretend that they're interchangeable here.

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