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  1. 2 minutes ago, SilentOne said:

    yes, it is wrong. But i guess we have to get over it cuz such concept will be always in f2p games, regardless of the staff 'promises' ^^

    im playing 2 other f2p games atm none of em treat their players this bad i mean its obvious they are just milking it but they dont even try to hide it


    6 minutes ago, H2H said:

    Only read the bottom part, that one line. Rest was illegible.  And you can't tell me what to do. Especially when you can't even spell "forum".

    Dont see how u cant read computer text and checking my sentence structure isnt the point of this thread, if u have nothing to add other then insults then idk y u commented 

  2. 13 minutes ago, SilentOne said:


    the game is slowly evolving. Later down the road will be the average AP again higher then now cuz everybody is progressing.

    I am almost free player (bought prem) and i have 525AP with true pirate and true sirens eq. And i have no problem to find asura if i want.... 4man is harder to find for me, but when i create my own 4man pt, its ez.

    You are saying that player who pays have significant advantage over f2p player. But which advantage? Where? In soloing dungs? Maybe in ssp, ok. But it is all mostly about knowing the mechanics. 500ap guy will outdps 650ap guy who is constantly dead/healing. And since there are not some kind of immortality potion for cash, you cannot buy 'skill' to avoid boss attacks.

    Eventually, you can buy AP advantage, which is not so huge advantage nowdays

    ur exactly right about that u need to know mechanics of boss overall then u should check ur gear but again this is now and im more worried about later down the road when we get harder dungs (not familiar with other versions) which will need higher end gear but yes u are correct u need to know mechanics, however even if u just forget about the gear upgrading part its NC intentionally exploiting their players to get a profit and dont get me wrong i realize their a company and they aim to make profits but seriously this is low trove was low first rng boxes was low and future events im anticipating it to be low. The advantage im talking about is they are getting a crazy head start and dont have to grind that much with these items. Also its not just AP thats a factor which many people dont realize u also need things like crit and cdmg which buying these boxes will allow u to get more of through the use of upgrade mats which causes them to progress much much faster. Thus leaving u behind and in how fast content is coming out if u want to enjoy the new content (dungs) then u gotta have the gear (yes and knowledge) to clear it and if u dont have it or are undergeared u wont find partys easily (pug runs). Basically u can look at it from both ways but whichever way u choose both of em point to one thing: this is wrong, exploitation of players and no care shown to what players are requesting and ignoring the issues. If they at least fixed some issues it wouldent be as bad.


    28 minutes ago, H2H said:

    If it's not important enough to use punctuation correctly, or at least to the point where its legible, its not important enough to post.

    Its a fourm for a video game chill

  3. 5 minutes ago, SilentOne said:

    maybe it is p2w but the question is what does the 'win' means here? You can do literally every current ingame content without pay. Only exception may be whirlwind valley, but even there can group of coordinated 'free' guys easily *cricket* group of 650+ chaotic 'cashers'.

    IMO real p2w would be for example scorpio weap requirement for asura. No scorpio weapon, no Sogun's lament. But as i said above, p2w is not required anywhere.

    Its not required but upgrading ur weapon is a huge part of bns and u may not need scorpio now but im talking later down the road once we get harder dungs that need higher tier gear. People right now are recruiting 550 AP for asura when u can do it fine with like 500 so if they rec 500 now what will it be next patch? p2w isnt required anywhere in anygame (u could say p2p but not rlly win), even if,forget upgrading weapon part its the fact a player who pays money gets a pretty significant advantage over a f2p player and the thing is NC know it, they know what they are doing and go through with it, they know players who spend money will get a big advantage and tbh it kills the game heres y: Why do we grind dungs over and over again? cause we want to upgrade our character right? if we can jus pay for all of it then whats the point? not only that is that it is INTENTIONAL. Like i said im all for treating ur paying players good but this isnt that 

  4. 45 minutes ago, Arkragon said:

    Yeah, having this "P2W" model coupled with fast content releases doesn't seem too good for the future of the game. As a former moderator for a similar game company (Aeria Games) the game I moderated was minimally P2W since (almost) all cash does is buy skins for your character and skins for your guns. Eventually, the game was shut down, so MAYBE it wouldn't be a good idea for BNS, but then again it was an FPS and not an RPG, and the playerbase is much larger here than it was there.

    u talkin AVA? I know aeria games was pretty bad still play one of there MMOs) but they greatly improved if it was only cosmetics it would be fine which this one does and there is items u can use to upgrade ur gear but honestly it dosnt give u such a huge a advantage ofc it gives u a nice boost but not as much as bns and u can get it in f2p means. Anyway thats a bit off topic but for bns since content comes so fast u need to have ur gear up to date in order to complete it thus if u cant get it as fast as others do u start to fall behind which then results in u not being able to enjoy the content that comes at a fast rate thus hurting ur experiance. so yea if it was only cosmetics or there was another reliable f2p method to get em sure but in their current state no.


    19 minutes ago, LadyGamerluv said:

    It's 'pay to progress faster" really, or better yet 'pay to catch up'.

    Well as i stated above with content coming out so fast u could define "winning" as progressing in an mmo although u can define it how u like. Whatever u define it as its not right and NC knows it yet they still follow through.

  5. 13 minutes ago, Arkragon said:

    The thing about P2W is that people have different definitions regarding what P2W means. Some people say that the game isn't technically P2W because there aren't cash exclusives that give people an unfair advantage to others, and F2P people will just have to grind for the same items. Essentially, it's Time vs. Money and not P2W. On the other hand, there will be people saying that P2W is simply having the ability to spend money to get speedier upgrades because cash can be converted to in-game gold. NCSoft may be using the first definition to justify their claim that they aren't being P2W, whereas you, and many like you, are using the second definition to say that NCSoft broke their word.


    Now, do I think it's P2W? Yeah, but it doesn't really bother me since I'll just have to spend time to get the same items that they get. The only issue I have with this is if down the road they release content that cannot be done unless I spend money. i.e. Needing at least 700 AP to do a dungeon or storyline quest while mat costs are insanely high which is equivalent to thousands of hours of grinding. If this occurs, then that's when I'll have to quit the game. Good thing right now the current content is doable at True Pirate, and grinding for True Breeze isn't completely unachievable if need be.

    Yea this is what i usually say well what i usually say when discussing p2w is defining winning cause really in an MMo there is no way to "win" but really no matter what way u look at it its obvious its a scummy way a company is tempting players to spend money on their game and thus gaining a pretty big advantage over others who dont. Usually i wouldent be too upset about it back when RNG moonwater boxes were released i wasnt happy but i was like meh, now with content coming out so fast and requiring better and better gear this is just an obvious cash grab exploiting their players if content slowed (which is a different topic entirely) it would help but still not much. Basically its obvious what NC is doing and its not good

  6. 7 minutes ago, Syanonn said:


    was going close to 1:30 QQ

    IkR i miss when it was 1:70 ;-; 


    16 minutes ago, TigerKFM said:

    Holy indentation, spaces, tab batman!

    Im always lazy when writing posts and just stuff online in general not writing an essay im trying to relay info so its not rlly important... and im super lazy ^^

  7. Sooo when NC said they didnt wanna make bns p2w if it wasnt obvious before it is now that that was a blatant lie it was bad when they released RNG boxes back when moonwater plains was still relevant they then released Treasure trove which is a huge P2W scheme and now they release silverfrost RNG boxes which is again another example of P2W. Now some of u are gonna say "oh jus farm gold and use currency exchange its not p2w" im sorry but ur wrong and thats just straight up damage control. Even if u wanted to do it with gold it would be WAAAAAAY less efficient then using $$$$ because 1 RNG sucks and 2 Things like these crash currency exchange which then results in being able to 1 further push the ppl who spend on the game even further then they already can be and 2 further screw over the f2p group by pushing them farther and farther behind like they already are. Now not everythings a race yea but u dont exactly want to spend forever upgrading also i personally like to progress fast which when silverfrost hit it was slowed but i was ok but then these P2W aspects came into play and now just because im an f2p player i am extremely far behind part of it being me not being able to play much and farm dungs much but the majority due to these P2W aspects NC are introducing. Im all for rewarding people who support ur game and giving em good stuff but this is pushing it wayy too much. Honestly im playing less and less everyday due to other stuff and the demotivating atmosphere NC has created with these P2W models. Im not butthurt on not being able to upgrade as fast im butthurt cause people are getting a significant advantage over me jus for spending cash on the game thus affecting me because people keep recruiting for higher and higher requirements for dungs (i do pug runs) thus reducing the overall partys i am able to join thus affecting my experience resulting in killing the mood to play or spend cash on here. TBH shoulda seen it coming and i dont expect these to stop, its been proven NC dont care and are just milking da game if it wasnt proven in ur face before it definitely is now.


    Feels free to post ur opinions but please keep it to a civil discussion 

  8. For those familiar with other versions (if they are even in them) what do the new stones do EXACTLY? liek for example to go to breeze u need 190 stingers will it make it go down to like what 90 ish stingers if its 40%? also is it rng based on the % or is it a separate craft for each %?(if they are even crafted) also please please please PLEASE tell me its not another p2w scam cause that would just be the worst.


    Replies appreciated 

  9. 11 hours ago, Dlacik said:

    Just one correction. Destroyer isn`t the one designed as tank, he only have +50% threat buff with long CD, and their block has long CD. Blade Master and Kung Fu Master both have +150% threat buff that lasts longer than its cooldown so they can keep it up whole fight. They also have spamable block/counter to protect themselves.


    Well, situation in PUGs is rly bad. Many BMs/KFMs there haven`t picked their class to tank and they want to play it like melee dps. Some of them just give up on tanking because of how the PUGs are. If you want to tank dungeon first time you need some tries to learn the patterns, when to block and when to use iframes. Ppl in PUGs are usually impatient and they will blame the tank.

    Yea pugs runs suck really bad in asura its rare to find a run that can clear. Whats even worse is when someone blames u and tries to tell u how to play ur class even though they either are a different class or dont know wdf they are talking about. I always get that as an fm Like example someone blamed me for not sheathing during a yeti att cause it was on cd and he got REALLY mad and started flaming me when he could of used one of his skills to protect himself/party, theres starting to be more and more people like dat idk

  10. 1 hour ago, Valiant said:

    @Rukkirii @omeed @Hime @Lock6 @Youmukon You will even answer us ?

    They wont theyll tell u to contact CS TBH they arnt CS so u guys shouldent be flaming them. Last time i talked anything bad about NC on fourms they banned for even trying to be reasonable with them so basically if they dont like what ur saying theyll ban u like me. CS is useless they even said that they cant do anything LEGIT NO JOKE they are mostly copy paste answers from usual CS support which is expected but considering how broken things are and they arnt doing anything to fix it even though they claim or if so then they should tell us what there doing cause right now NOTHING is being done. Dont flame those guys cause they are just community peeps (from what i know) so they cant/wont be able to help u, will i get banned for saying that? i wont be surprised 

  11. 11 minutes ago, Shadzar said:

    it works Like eBay, you see the current bid amount when you show items with a bid, and when you go to make a bid you are asked to pay the next increment on a set scale for bidding. Unlike eBay you can't jsut bid a higher amount in order to hope you loke the price. Like eBay someone can snipe you at the last second


    So what you see if the price it started for or someone else already bid on the item. You have to bid MORE to have a bid that counts.


    This is why most things on the market are buy now, because people don't want to mess with eBay inside of their game.

    So basically theres a set increment u have to bid for it to count? First off thats pretty stupid 2nd why dafaq doesnt it tell u then?

  12. 15 hours ago, Rasky said:




    Watch from 9:30. I don't care if it's a dps loss, I want to take it cause looks fun as hell to use XD

    LOL WDF I WAS THINKING BEAM BUT THAT LOOOOOOOL. Seriously even though that may not be viable currently cause idk wdf focus regen he got but that looks fun af to do lol


    To da op yea its super useful as u can see there and for beam -1s cd for drags and the def/parry pierce for pvp so yea its rlly good

  13. Yea its a pretty good dmg increase for a skill ull be constantly using regardless. I mean its not like ur sacrificing anything else for it other then the 2 points u need to invest in it. All gain seems like a win win in my book. Literally book... GET IT?!?!??

  14. Auto detonate is vastly inferior to blazing beam burn, if there was another reliable way to apply burn and keep it up 100% of the time then auto detonate wouldent be so bad but there isnt so it hurts ur dps a lot. Auto detonate annoys me greatly not only does it near half my dps but its also mental torture trying to get a burn off on the 5 stacks. Reason why is blaze beam hits so hard on burn target that it prt much outclasses everything else and now we have hm lb it just improves ur dps output buy so much. Basically 2 main reasons why auto detonate is bad: 1. it halves the potential dmg of blaze beam and hm lb which both have very high dmg especially on burn target and 2. detonations with auto detonate cant crit which honestly even if they could it still wouldent be as good u could also add a 3. that it pisses off every fm in ur pt using burn.

    11 hours ago, Alilah said:

    My dual dragons doesn't hit as hard as my inferno.
    My inferno (which I use mostly anyway for the flame orbs) does a max of 21k.

    Depends if ur using insta cast or left, but yea it dosent hit as hard but its an AOE b urn stack bleed effect that hits pretty much the same as insta cast inferno + lower CD. Think of it as just what i said an aoe,instacast,bleed,burnstack, focus regen inferno on a much lower cd(even lower with HM 2) so yea its pretty worth it but the pain is if ur using HM lb u gotta use fire fury.... basically its a lot stronger then u give it credit for mainly for the bleed and aoe

  15. 14 hours ago, Dlacik said:

    That depends on tank. If you have good tank you can`t steal agro with your dmg. BM/KFM have tools to keep agro and if they use them, they can handle even 100 AP difference (tested).

    The only factor is if they even spec it, almost all the pts i get into im always tanking when there is like 2 kfs/bms in the pt, guess thats one of the many downsides of pugging FeelsBadMan

  16. 1 hour ago, Malign said:

    Looking at it you can sneak away a little bit of crit, but for the average player, the pierce gained by the yeti 3 set is going to be better. Assuming you maxed out your bopae, the crit you gain is rather insignificant.

    I mean i already have 17-19 piearce and the extra crit is nice so i think thatll be a good tradeoff no?

  17. 2 hours ago, Malign said:

    yeti 5 and 7 have over 200 base crit and yeti 6 has over 200 acc thats why.

    yea but nakusun has pretty high crit is there another combination that gives higher crit? Like some parts of naksun combined with asura  to create an optimal output?

  18. So from what I can see bis SS right now is 5 asura and 3 naksun? i heard ppl saying 3 yeti but i mean the piearce dosent seem to great. Anyway i wanna know what the best pieces to match up ive heard ppl saying 357 yeti 5 asura ive seen 567 yeti rest asura(ofc highest crit) anyone have an idea? would like explanation as well 

    Replies appreicated 

  19. dont expect it to be fixed anytime soon if at all. BnS was and is a huge money grab for NC, they dont care too much about it and they blame all its issues on other things like " oh its ur isp" " oh contact cs not everyone is having this problem" i was literally trying to help them out and they banned me for calling them out on their mistakes, atm servers are stupidly laggy ping is wayyy higher then it should be gameguard is doing way more harm then it is good bots are running free hackers not being tended too. I wish i was wrong and ill gladly be but it is in fact the truth


  20. 1 hour ago, Enhance said:

    I don't see this happening in a thousand years.


    As for AP, it's never relevant on its own. 1000 AP and 25%/150% crit/crit damage will severely lose in dps against 500 AP and 60%/210% crit/crit damage.

    You are indeed correct but the thing is half the ppl who recruit for dungs ask for AP requirements which for someone who pugs every single dung it makes it extremely hard to find a group when all of them ask for like 550 ap + for asura when u can do it jus as well with 480-500, also what u mentioned the crit factor which again they dont realize and only ask for AP