Got kicked and ignored many times for applying MSP1-3 in General Discussion Posted May 22 · Edited May 22 by matthew I dare not look at Wind builds until i see either a buff or a new peice of gear that ensures theres no downtime on the honey+Chi drain. Also I've led some partys in MSP where at the last minute people have asked me to include in thier friends or threatened to leave if i didnt include/wait for "insert playername" to finish thier dungeon. I think its a luck of the draw thing BUT it doesnt seem common place for me yet. Most people still take whatever they can get and are'nt picky on gears. 19 hours ago, Merlin DE said: I dont know your gear, but it seems like you might have a problem with your skilling and maybe check your rotation when you lost DPS. I had some problems too after the Patch with Skilling and Rotation. Not using simpe mode, i did include simple mode in my tests after the patch because i just couldnt beleive the hit my build prepatch took and went searching for every conceivable answer. This was with balefull 11/12 btw. now im on Aransu 3 aswell and easily hitting 160k solo and breaking 300k on buffs with earth build. Dunno what this VT is you speak of. I dare not look at Wind builds until i see either a buff or a new peice of gear that ensures theres no downtime on the honey+Chi drain.