hrm for some reason I think that would be um unhelpful? Only because my troubleshooter launches the app and I would have to keep launching to see if there is any improvement. let me check again tho! -I see. that did detect bns as a game made for earlier versions of windows but to test it, it tries to open the client as opposed to the launcher. which will not work. I guess I'll just try that again and see. T___T I've tried so many things Dx but you're very helpful even if I don't find results T__T your efforts are greatly appreciated.