MurdoqSenpai

What is the best way to lose playerbase? Cut things out without notice, and give back half as excuse.

I don't complain about green shards since we can farm it during the week to spent it over the weekend, but I see your point. About keys, they cut by half the daily msp 1-3 that gives 4keys before patch. ¬¬ Last weekend i got 0 ZERO evolveds stone from chest 4 and 5, probly bad realy bad rng. Usualy i get from 100 chest 4-5-6 (300 in total) at least 100 evolved, last weeend was like 80, same rate for my friend who got stones from every chest. I see a ninja nerf in there but can be paranoia because ncsoft done this things in the past in several occasions.

Disable Optimized mode if you are using it. This solved the problem for me.

No, dont come even close to 130 crystal, for this im sure, but i have not lost any in the end. Lets say i got 10ms crystal in the end of an entire week. I dont do pvp and dont farm anyware this material. But now with orbs, soon or later we will need to buy orbs as you was buying sealed moonstones. The best way to farm sacred orbs is msp and this will not be enoght to suply the demand for keys. I just hope the price dont raise more then the 2g as you say. Trade volume in market is already like 30k orbs per day and will rise alot in the weekends with people buying keys. Lets see what happens, a good side of this is the price of moonstone will drop. Lets hope in the end oils prices drops too, i think in two weeks we can have a preview of what is coming about this adjustment. I think oils prices will be more messed up and msp farm will die. Just my tought, future will tell im no specialist. Would be so easy if they just add as an option but we know ncsoft, maybe after 2-3 updates they change it again.

You missed the parte i say, "entire week". Considering only weekend of farm, you lose alot crystal. Considering an entire week doing purple train and doing mult msp in the weeend, you receive a tiny amount of crystal. This not doing pvp at all. I have not lost moon stones crystal since the revamp of msp even while i spent more then 300 keys per weekend. Now with sacred orbs, if they stop at 2g good, but even with this "low price" will kill the msp farm. Chest 4 - 3 orbs = 6g to open chest 5 - 3 orbs = 6g to open chest 6 - 6 orbs = 12g to open This will raise prices for oils too... 350g looks not high enoght. But yeah we have trove and rng box to fill the gap. Someone said 1 moonstone crystal the key is free... but consider the time you spent farming, with a diminished reward you will end up wasting your time doing mult.

No event currency for daily challenge too.

i agree, the same happens with moonstone crystal and any sealed material. Yeterday i spent all my crystal just to avoid buying keys with orb for some time.

I believe i dont need to worry about sacred crystals, at least for now. There is only 2 new pve acessories in korean server. with weapon, soul, heart, pet and talisman too i dont believe that they together will consume my stock. Since i need to farm sacred oils/petpods, and this farm alone will give alot more crystals then i can use. I dont do any farm other then msp in the weekend and purple train in a daily base, only in my main character. Devs could lower the sacred crystal drop and rise a little monstone crystal drop in msp. A good part of the player base is farming msp now, for mats and sealed things to earn some gold. Keys with orbs will hit way harder on those people. Ncsoft devs strugle to much to balance materials drops, places to farm and ways to earn $. This is happening since they introduced those sealed/unsealed thing. This actual oil problem and lack of places to farm moonstone crystals, looks like the game is still in beta and they are trying to figure out what to do. 3 years of NA and 6 korean i think... I love to play this game but to be honesty, we dont even have a good friend/block list, F8 is a nightmare for people who need it, there is no new content without alot of bugs, the list keep growing.

In the end of the day, people that dont have a good stock of orbs will see this as a "ninja nerf" considering it was done to help with moonstone problem. People will end up leaving the game, since the best place to farm mats (not moonstone as always) is getting a nerf. And the player base cant afford people leaving every att. As it happened when they scramble with oils, and the last one with demons spirit stones. Leaving these two options, 3 orbs or 1 moonstone, would be perfect. People can farm moonstone using orbs, and farm orbs with crystal.

You dont lose moonstones crystals, you receive a tiny amount considering the entire week doing purple train. You can farm it doing pvp too. Moonstone crystal was not an issue to be removed. If they want to give a better choice then give a choice not a substitute. Grimoir said people complaint about ms crystal... The problem is not the key alone but everything that uses sacred orbs will rise the price. Sacred orbs are now 70-90s? The price will raise alot. You will see. About using sacred crystal like normal... i have alot ALOT sacred crystal collectin dust, my alts become mules to carry these. Sacred crystal are given like candy, not orbs. We get a good amount during the week but will not be enoght. Considering only 300 keys, its 900 orbs, where can i get these 900 orbs? MSP farm will not supply it, msp + purple train will not too. While buying msp keys with ms crystal and get some back, with orbs will be a different story. We will burn our orbs reserves. Sacred orbs is a bad choice cus 3 is too much, and 2 is not enoght. In my opnion the best thing for everyone would be release this as a choice, market would balance itself. 3 orbs with no ms crystal option will just scramble the market, like they have done with oils. Price raised from 100-150g to 250 in a week. Today is like 350g. Its not whining at all, its my point of view, i can be wrong in a general picture, but for me its what is happening.

Sorry, i mean do adjustment till reach a good thing, was not about the materials. Just using it as example. In this case, they released an option to buy the elements/jewel, and when they see people complainig about it, they made another adjustment leaving the old way plus the new costs. Was done adjustments 3 or 4 times before reach a good way for the players. And the materials were not exchanged for any Sealed version. For instance sacred crystals are piling up while people are trading 30-35k orbs everyday in F5 market.

I hope they do the same as this. Took a while but was done right, after some time.

More like sacred crystal probably. Everyone have it. Sealed version of anything in this game "only" people that whale trove and rng boxes have alot to spare. Just think about it, 300 keys will cost 900 orbs, you will receive like 500 i think. Where this 400 orbs will come from? Talking about only a weekend of rookie farm. Anyway this adjustment will butcher MSP farm. This adjustment should be one more option to buy the key not the only one.

Brace yourselves guys, adjustment is coming.