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  1. @Grimoirit is exactly what i said, put token in every dungeon and then increase/rescale prices. 
     

    and i think merlin is totaly right about leftovers and it would mean we can play without a spreadsheet or calculate anything and then send stuff to main.

    Tbh, i would even say further, a huge QOL change, maybe a premium one? would be to add a panel in bank shared with whole account, or a panel in inventory that store every bound to account items. Also since we can send ET weapons and every accesories there is no reason to have latest scale, flower, metal as character bound. Thats not stat point and it would be a very good reason to have premium :) basicaly make everybody want to spent 10€/month for the game. but i guess thats another topic and i am derailing lol ... 

  2. First, i dont know anybody that enjoy playing their trash reroll or playing with trash reroll in events or spend half of their time switching char / zoning in F8... please name me one...and it is unfair to player that only have one main character ! 

     

    About the "unlimited" gems farm, you guys realise that you can have as many account as you want to farm powder (and its not so bad LAZY money maker, between 50-100g/hour worth of powder) @YunoGasaiYandere im pretty sure a chinese gold seller would enjoy his 100-200€ monthly salary from such method (ever wondered where the powder supply come from or why F9 price is "broken" ? )

     

    About "let's get all in event"  @Grimoir  i already covered it by " as long it isn't faster to farm then other dungeons (just a secondary way for lower geared people or at night time when F8 is scarce)"  maybe i should write "efficient" instead of "faster" ? But i would add that they could put some token as reward for dynamic in ALL dungeon during event while event dungeon would be the way to go for low gear chars to get entry level mats?? maybe with an increase/rescale in the price of event shop. That would be so awesome actually ! 

     

    @Merlin DE exactly 11x1 or 1x11 is the same ... and anyway they are now ABLE to put limit on everything account wide so there is no reason to force us to do event on rerolls now (and we can buy account slot with hmcoin so they don't really profit from it)

     

    One of the reason that F8 lobby is so empty is because people are on alt doing event. Being able to do it on main only would mean we could actually see what in F8 between 2 event and might jump on something and bring more activity to the game.

     

     

     



     

  3. Hello,

     

    Most of us know and recommand to have multiple alt characters to profit from events.

     

    And i think that in many way it isn't enjoyable

     

    Since they introduced limit to item from event shop (and i doubt anybody buy anything beside the bound to account items...) there are two thing they could add to make events enjoyable : 

    • make the reward in the dynamics and make them repeatable
    • make token bound to account.

     

    This would make event more enjoyable since we would see more geared players doing it. 

     

    I once suggested about BTA token and linxy said they dont want to force us to do event on many alt, but regardless we already doing it to buy BTA items. the only non-bta item are flowers, exp charm and scales  and i don't know anybody insane enough to buy them at that price...! Anyway i think it would be nice to farm them that way (exp, flowers, scales) as long it isn't faster to farm then other dungeons (just a secondary way for lower geared people or at night time when F8 is scarce).

     

    If this is implemented, it would be nice to add unity stone boxes into the event shop.

     

     

    ps: also please add a mechanics that disable dynamic reward for afk-leechers it becoming more and more painfull. At least give us a report-abuse button .... 

     

  4. They should understand that all of us that support the game already putting as much as we can afford :

     

    If we have 100€ to put in the game we put it, no more no less... no amount of frustration will work on most of us...

     

    Actually the only reason i am no longer putting money into the game is that i'm not garanteed to evolved my gear.

    For example, last trove and boxes i did put some money on each and i got ZERO progress on my unity stones !!!!

    Well this reasoning only work if they still have enough players, otherwise all they have left to do is squeeze as much they can for some arabians princes and millionaires sons and then close the game.

  5. Soul/etc you can farm beforehand since it use existing material, or bought in f5 and every veteran have enough to max day 1  ...
    Premium bonus effect like russia is out because deemed p2w.
    Raid Weapon material are never on release but like 2 month after because its considered p2w to offer max weapon on day1.

    We don't have psyche (yet?) in trove/box because it is considered p2w.
    We don't have new released accessories in trove because its p2w (well, we get a few orbs but still need to do 100 runz...).
    We don't have new badges in trove because its p2w ... 

     

    They removed unlimited experience from F10 (except from trove) because there have been a huge riot about it and its pay2win.
     

    Tbh i don't even complain about trove or boxes because we can buy 20 per days with hmcoin and it available to everyone.

     

    But this thing we can not even buy with Hmcoin... wtf!? i would gladly spend some of my 200K gold for it... kek...

     

    Unity stone bonus take 1 YEAR at the very least and if lucky and require NEW material that can not be purchased in F5 and is time gated and is RNG upgrade. 
    Why on hell is that thing purchasable in F10 with ncoin !? something wrong here and whiteknight make zero sense. 

  6. il y a 53 minutes, paloaltojae a dit :

    All this discussion and yet GM never comments on these kinda post. And when we submit ticket online they tell us to write in the forum.

     

    LOL

    excatly, and then pretend everything is fine and that people that complain about the game are just trolls .... 

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  7. il y a 11 minutes, Cor a dit :

    That has been rip since long time, pointless thread is pointless.

    Hey we have new community management, maybe this one will remember the promise and why we actually joined the game and also why we are all leaving or on the verge on leaving. on another topic they quote the CEO saying how the community management (back when linxy was here) wasn't giving proper feedback. will our "new" community  management hear us ?? I can not recommand the game to any friend because i dont know anybody that would want to play a game with zero hope of achievement/competition unless they put thousand of euro every trove...

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  8. Le 25/07/2019 à 01:52, Cyan a dit :

    I am not sure exactly what you mean by this but we've been working with the development team to get to the bottom of this issue, and it seemed like everything was ready to go this morning. Unfortunately things sometimes don't go as planned and we're sending them some information to have them look further. 

    Cyan, Not to be rude with you since you are so awesome  ... but the devs team are really bad and incompetent for not being able to correct a simple time/timezone problem. At most it should take 1 hour to locate and correct such a simple thing and it been around for 5 weeks and they manage to break it further. If ncsoft ever want to recruit competent dev/dba/project manager you can contact me, id love to live in korea. :p

  9. il y a 11 minutes, Amarathiel a dit :

    Pay2Win is pretty much a double-edged sword. Without pay2win people with jobs where they work very long hours every day will not be able to get anywhere near end game and then they more or less quit the game. Also if you take out any grinding aspects, it just becomes too boring too fast when everyone is sitting at max gear after 1 month of starting the game. Gotta have balance which is difficult to find.

     

    1 year of farming for insane super mega power sounds very reasonable to me. More power it gives, harder it should be to get.

     

    But pay2win should have its limits as well. That's why it is a double-edged sword. Without some form of pay2win a free2play game can't really survive that long. I mean what are those people with jobs gonna do? They don't have time to grind out gear so they just pay2win it. And making the grind so easy and short that even those people with jobs can get it all would make the game uninteresting for a lot of people after awhile.

    You are out of topic.

    I would have no problem with unity stones, if unity boxes were NOT in trove / boxes (like pysche are not in trove/boxes!)


    Also i have no problem with putting money into the game and supporting it... as mentionned i put 500-1000 key every trove plus i am premium account since the start. 

    My problem is that they advertised game would not have pay2win elements but there is. It is false advertising. 

     

  10. il y a 32 minutes, Ylkrad a dit :

    I don't do the 2 stone method on blues- I actually do a mix of 5-7 ( and that's wasteing) and for making legendry's, I use 2 purples and the rest blues- I don't have to lie cause im working on my 4th stone passively. if you do want more stones, try hard mode dungeons or anything higher than SSM- you can catch some boxes up for grabs- or try hard mode, been seeing better drops in hard mode as well. All in all, i'm just saying, be optimistic, keep trying but I also sympathize with you. it sucks but you can get a lot done. 

    our lottery is 1-2$, where I work I get about 13.50$ and should be 15$ by new years, $17 or 18 the following. The actual lottery is a scam, in game rng is a lot less of a scam, but it's still unfair in general.

    like I said, play this game to have fun and progress your way, don't argue with someone who only saw this thread and just wanted to give my perspective. All I can say is sorry, try to make the most of everything, be happy or move on-- it's a tough choice :(

    On big number, 2 per 2 seems winner from the data collected but without having data from the game i can not be sure. There is no clear loss/win from doing other methods...but at least i am talking with a huge collaborative sample. But you can try the other method then are harmless. 

    In europe, we have nationnal lottery 2€ for tens of millions  and european lottery for hundred millions. Not sure what you are talking about =).
     

    I think you dont get my point. I play a game because it was ADVERTISED  as not pay2win :bnsp2w.png

     

    That i would never have to face a paywall for anything. But i can not compete in many aspect of the game because i can not PAY for max unity which is clearly permanent stat & power increases that one can not get before the end of the current season hence loosing to pay2win players which get the hmcoin we can not get.

     

    I could enjoy a long term upgrade, for example : 

    - i enjoy farming my unity level which nobody can shortcut (yet). I would have liked a weekly limit or daily average instead of a daily limit but thats being picky. 

    - i enjoy farming CM which is on how good you drive (altough there is a bonus if you kill it early) and psyche which is also about farming hard mode dungeon (which dont require max gear). And on this one we dont have psyche in trove (yet?) while KR have it in trove. 

    - i enjoy farming raids altough you can shortcut the soulshield farm with money but you could also buy all the soulshields that drop and by the end of season everybody have it so its ok. 

    - soul, heart, pet, talisman are made with materials you can buy in F5 so if you are long time player you can usually afford and trove/boxes with help newcomers to catch up. 

    At most, troving would put you 1 to 3 month ahead of others so you can catch up before season end. But on unity stones it is years ahead which put you outside of competition for F11 and you loose many k of hmcoins ! 


    Its fine you can enjoy the game knowing you'll never achieve top ranks.  But i am not fine with it and many are not fine with it, just look at the reddit i posted there are only negative comments on the fact a pay2win got it day one while we will need years to achieve it.

  11. il y a 21 minutes, Ylkrad a dit :

    except the lottery costs more money- has no return, has no free way to play and is not eventually guaranteed.

    You don't need a streak of luck, you just need enough chances to get what you want (yes a form of luck but at least more rigged in your favor than a lottery which is designed to have worse odds than getting hit by lightning twice).

    national lottery is 2€ in here. where do you live for 2€ to be expensive ? 

    You need a streak of luck,  2 per 2 is under 10% chance 8per8 is 45-55% chance. There is no way to garanty 100% chance to get NEXT stage.

     

    Let's say u go the 2 per 2 route with optimistic 10% chance (it more like 8%).
    On average, you need 11 blue stone for a purple (9 fail x (2 stone consumed - 1 blue stone back) + 1 sucess x 2 stone consumed)
    Then again you need on average 11 purple for a legendary. Thats 121 blue stones total on average.

    121 RADIANCE  stones x 15  = 1815 radiance stones (i have a headacke and urge to vomit when i see that number).

    About ascension stone, its pure gamble, you need to luck out a purple box (never seen one in cs/hm merchant and only 1 in daily reward). and then you need to luck out a legendary. 

    I let you calculate the time a free2play player need for that given the fact you can only get about 2 to 3 blue stone a day (hint : years).

    Please, for god sake stop saying that something can be bought INSTANTLY but takes at least YEARS for free players to be pay 2 progress, it is not. It is the most vicious example of pay2win. 

    What do you need to stop pretending it is achievable? 10 years? 20 years? 50 years? 

    Not to mention, there is no way to garantie the evolution from blue to purple and then legendary. For example, this trove i spent 1210 keys (a mix of ncoin key + hmcoin key) and my unity stone did not evolve a inch , no change, nada, zero. And if i try more my odd did not improve.... all the effort and money ive put did vanish forever. 
     

    il y a 9 minutes, Ylkrad a dit :

    https://imgur.com/LZHidgx 

    it'll give some people an idea of how much to toss in, all I can say is hope they add more sources to get purple boxes so people can convert to legendaries or something, or just more ways to get blues at least or adjust rates a little. I am with you- unity is tough, but should be more accessible to casual or hardcore players who actually put time into grinding out feathers.



    It isn't just tough, it is impossible to get within reasonable time. By the time somebody get close to current max we will already get the next tier of stones ! Thats crazy. 

    Its been over 3 month and you said it yourself , you only have 3 of them. Thats 1 per month and we need 18 of them ... 

    Yes we need more blue, much more blue. They need to at least remove the time limitation on it, either make cs/hm repeatable or chance the currency to something we can farm (for example evolved stone or convert the shitload crystals one can get when farming). 


     

  12. il y a 2 minutes, Ylkrad a dit :

    what area's lock you out of pay 2 win walls? mao, toi and 6's( which even ageinst whales i'm top 30 or better in mao which all I care about remotely). the rest is points and personal skill/ping. Unity does not work in 1v1 and 3v3 or shackled. challenge mode is more on mechs than damage, since a fast kill time with low mech is not a great score, but it can make it shorter thus easier- that's about it. How many people actually try challenge mode tbh?

    The game is progression, some like the cash element, some like the grind- but many have to grind, I don't like it this grindy, but the game is what it is... and i'm sorry. Don't be silent with the system, be vocal and keep complaining- ncsoft has to cave in someday.

    All of them except 1v1 and 3v3 . I was top1 europe in my class on master hong and i can not even get close to top 5 on mao with near full ET gear (i only missing 678 soulshield which i'll get very soon). And im not really free2play since i buy premium and spend 500-1000 key every trove.... 

    This is , this one you can NOT grind, its a paywall + rng + time gated ... i have more chance to win at national loterry then having a streak of luck and get max legendaries

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    il y a 6 minutes, Ylkrad a dit :

    I have 3 legendary stones- 1 from trove and 2 from crafting, the rest are heroics- it didn't take much for me to craft legendry's but I can see the frustration: first off, get your heroic tiers first before worrying about a legendary- purples are really good and you'll be ahead of most people, two is this game is personal progression, sorry if you have a complex or impulse to be the very best- pve is just pve, please enjoy what you have and what you can do now.

    My method for making legendries is 2 heroic (purples) with some blues ( did 1-6 blues) and got ok luck, but in 4 tries made 2 is fine ( if you fail you get your heroic stone back, so you net lose some blues and a purple- so its not too punishing).

    I heard there was a sheet for making heroics or legendries, but I don't know where that is, heard some people trying 2~5~7 at a time to make heroics, not to mention weekly challenge is going to be adding a stone box- along with daily, so you get a bit more chances per day- but I will say this, you want to get to tier 1 unity set effect for crit damage/ elemental damage- that's a big enough boost to be happy about and just passively work on legendries or min maxing good heroic's.

    But seriously, trove and some rng boxes or events should offer a currency to buy some boxes for free or easier, 30-50k is absurd but I believe it. If you do get a legendary from a box for your skill multiplier, you can swap by crafting with it to merge into a different stone type- so the guy probably did it that way.

    We perfectly know how to upgrade our unity, and i myself have shared spreadsheet with over 2000+ fusions from clan and friends and growing

    i think you are wrong about the game. Maybe YOU play it for personnal progression but then you miss on F11 rewards which are huge. and those reward are now locked to pay2win players since it is impossible to beat pay2win player because of unity stones locked being a pay2win rng wall. 

    Also for your information if you want to reroll a legendary, you need 2 of them for a rng chance. 

  14. I guess ncsoft employees prefer this topic to root while they take profits. 
     

    This guy spent like 55K keys, he only got 4 extra legendary? and there are many more topic like that on reddit and discord but community managers and ncsoft employees prefer to ignore us.

    It is the only way to max it. 20-50K keys depending on luck ... and if one dont understand how gamebreaking it is one should go back to school. 

    without trove/boxes it takes at the very least 1year if lucky and probably 2 to 5 years if average luck.

    i'm still bemused by the sophistry about it being pay 2 progress while it is one heavy example of pay 2 win mechanic. 
     

  15. Il y a 2 heures, Xzard a dit :

    I completely agree with you @NekoNoKishi, you can be the most crazy farmer in the entire game, and you will have no chance to progress in unity stones compared to someone who spends tons of money.
    This system may work in KR, but on this server people hate RNG walls, and this is the main problem for me, is RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG, you can save 1 month of feathers and boxes and may end with nothing and this feeling of zero progress after X amount of time invested is what makes this the worst system so far.
    They must remove the RNG on this, one solution for this is just buy purple/leg box directly on CS NPC, for example 50 feathers = purple box, 500 feathers = 1 leg box, and even then it will take a lot of time, but you will be able to MAKE PROGRESS.

    Thx at least some peoples here are not spreading lies. 

    It is indeed not just a pay wall but a RNG pay wall on top of rng ...

     

  16. Il y a 2 heures, Grimoir a dit :

    there actually are people with it maxed...and a lot of people with close to 1000 points in it.....more than half of them dont even spoend money on the game.

    LIES. 

  17. Le 11/07/2019 à 21:28, Draknalor a dit :

    I play destroyer, reaper destroyer. I can never play this game competitive because my class is bad for dps in the current state of the game and when put in a grp with high geared BM, Warden or summoner I will never be able to keep up..

    So unless you play BM, summoner or warden, Why even try to keep up with other people? as you will always lose out to those 3 classes.

     

     

    By competition, i talk about F11. You may have missed the fact that it is class-specific and give huge rewards every season. It was possible to compete if you farm enough but now there are peoples with maxed unity stone  and the rest. Also, please note that the topic is not about class balance. 

     

    @ other peoples

    Soul was called pay2win by majority of the community and is still called pay2win by most even now that you can farm evolved stone in MSP. Unity stone is worse in so many way (rng, rarity, time gated, etc) and people pretend it is not pay2win ? its a joke ? are you guys trolling ? do you guys ever go to reddit or discord ? do you even play the game ?  

     

    There is NOBODY with it maxxed and its been release about 3 monthes ago ! in 1 year there will still be no free to play players with it (except liars) and you guys pretend it is achievable? 

    They need to remove the rng parts. For example with progression bar. You would break useless stones to make fragments (like you do with gem powder) and improve them with fragments.

    They need to make orbs and frozen feather farmable. For example, they could replace frozen feather with evolved stones. CS+HM would drop evolved stones which will also help peoples with soul and heart.

     

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    il y a 3 minutes, Grimoir a dit :

    You are too fixed on the term "now". This is a long term upgrade, meaning over time you can get legendary unity stones you are not supposed to get them NOW because you want them NOW.

    Thats why the rest costs are completely irrelevant because if you do it daily you accumulate feathers that you can buy the stones with, no need for resets.

    Given it could award a bit more feathers than it currently does, it does not cost any money to get legendary items, especially since i know quite a few players who dont spend money and got at least 1 legendary unity stone in their collection.

    What fallacy is that, where did i say i want it now ?  Yes i said i could buy max soul and such day 1. But i never said the word now to describe Unity. all i said is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to achieve in a reasonable timeframe. you put word in my mouth i never pronouced. 2 year is the minimum to achieve it. Do you call it possible? 

    It takes 0 days for paid people and a MINIMUM of 2 year for free player to get... how can you call it pay to progress?  

    If you compare soul and unity :
    Soul =>  you can spam MSP which will give you materials, money, evolved stones or any other money generating stuff (WC, BT, VT, weeklies, event, dailies, etc)
    Unity => you can do 1 HM + 11 CS + 1 daily chest + 21 trove key => THE END - GOOD BYE - SAYONARA 

    You still call that pay2progress about something that is impossible to grind hence impossible to obtain regardless of effort you put on it?  

    Are you a troll? next time you are going to call something that takes 10 years to get pay2progress...not wasting more time to answer your trolling. 

  19. il y a 48 minutes, Grimoir a dit :

    Unity is not the only thing that makes a difference....

    Ping, rotation, even FPS all that matters when it comes to dps.

     

    you cna have max unity and the same gear as someone other with your class but if his ping / rotation is better he will still destroy you.

     

    Pay2win is when you can get something only by spending money and thats not the case, literally EVERYTINHis obtainable in game (sure its a grind, but its obtainable and that is the difference between p2win or not.)

     

    Also they stated already unity is a long term thing and they do not foresee any changes to it in the near future.


    (i already talked about ping, fps , dps you did not read...)

    I agree with you definition of Pay2Win : something you can only obtain by spending money.

    But what you do not understand is that you can NOT grind max unity legendary jewels. You again did not read.

    It cost 10K key at the very least thats 500.000 gold converted into trove key or 250K gold worth of CS reset + orb (if average luck). 
    Oh forgot to mention you can only buy 10 reset a day !!!! 
    That amount doesn't exist unless on less then 10 person in both NA+EU and they are people that got it through extreme pouring of $$$$ into the game so that exclude them from "free players". 

    Since its timed gated it take at the very least 2 year to farm itand  by this time there will be awakened legendary or even worse stuff or game will be dead. 

     

    This mean it is IMPOSSIBLE for free players to achieve through farming/grind.  


    If you dont understand that something that require an amount of gold or time that free players dont have is IMPOSSIBLE there is a huge flaw in your logic.


     

  20. Il y a 10 heures, wefhqweig a dit :

    I can agree with the point where it's pay 2 win, but I disagree with the severity of it. If you put in as much work as you say you do to keep up and stay maxed, I have a hard time believing you commonly get outperformed by someone with better unity rank.

    You're trying to tell me that you have a maxed or near maxed character, you play well, you have a good computer and good ms, but you get outdps'd by someone equally geared and equally skilled with similar fps/ms, because they have a better unity rank and they belittle you because of that?

    And you're also saying that you want to quit and throw away all that work because people can drop a few hundred or thousand dollars to quickly max their unity to do 200k more dps than you, and it would take you too long to achieve that?

    You probably undestimate max unity, its not just 200K. First its tons of bonus stats. Secondly its got a permantent belt like effect (+200% AP on skill) and third it got permanent 100 AP bonus. All that is enough to be outparsed easily. Its not just pay2win its overwhelming bonuses that are game breaking. To make you understand, imagine if i tell you that VIP have a second belt slot and 2 more gem ? wouldn't you be angry  ?  They removed the pay2win aspect of premium that RU have, they removed the ability to max HM easily that we had atr once ... so i still don't understand why they keep something that is timed gated available to power through. Its much more powerfull then both RU premium bonus and instant hm30 together ! 

    Il y a 2 heures, Grimoir a dit :

    Not completely true, i made 2 legendaries by fusing 2 purples and rest blue, another clan member made one aswel.  So i wouldnt say its not possible, but its hard, while i think the legendary ones shouldnt be too easily obtainable, the rates should definetely improve a bit, would be even better is there was a % indicator of the chance to get pruple / legendary.

     

    You cant really play "competitive" in this game, especially since damage is mostly ductated by the class, so you can have the same gear, the same everything else as another player but the difference in DPS can still be 3-5 milion.

    The only thing you can compete in is gear upgrades and thats about it.

     

    As for trove: the only legendary stones you can get from trove are the 3 main speldor stones. the radiance sparkling chests only give you purples, they cant give legendaries, and they are very rare in trove aswel, so you still need to fuse them to make legendaries which has the same chance as for everyone else. So i wouldnt call it p2w, but more like p2improve / p2speedup.

    I have an uncle that found a 10K€ worth treasure in his garden... does not mean everybody will find one ... You were lucky, i have a spreadsheet is over 2K fuse result and trust me fusing 2 at once is under 10% chance and 8 fuse is slightly under 50% and i start to believe legendary fuse are worse then purple ones .... 

    There is no 3-5M dps difference in this game except for opening. 
    F11 is ranked by CLASS, im totaly destroyed by people of my class with same gear but max unity, how fair is that? wont you call it pay to win ? Everything else can be bought already if you are not a newcomer. 

    You are mistaken about p2fast because contrary to everything else in this game this one is TIME GATED and RNG : 
    1/ buying trove key/boxes for HM coin is limited to 20 per day
    2/ cs & hm are once a day
    3/ RNG, you can blow up 50 box and get NOTHING in the end while you will progress for every inch of effort toward any other piece of gear (providing you dont try your luck at PTS).


    Yes you can trove your way but its on a whole different level then other stuff. As i could max gems/soul with just gold, its impossible for this one. It cost over 250K gold with AVERAGE luck to max it through spamming CS that mean even at my level of farming 250K / 5K  weeks = 50 weeks ! i know that people that maxed unity bought well over 10K troves keys ! 
    This is at least 5500 € ! Are you sane saying its not pay2win? do you live in another planet ? 

    Even soul is cheaper, its only about 200 
     

    Il y a 2 heures, NightFer a dit :

    Just switch to spirit BM and you wont care about dps anymore :D Can easily put 10mil dps without much gear :D What is 200k compared to 10mil? Not much I guess.

     

    About the Unity system, they said even in KR its a long-term system that provides bonuses. Eventually (since you play 20h a day) you will catch up to the people who troved their way to legendary (yes, I saw someone with all legendary unity). Its not p2w game or anything, its pay-to-progress-faster way. I highly doubt its 200k from purple to legendary, more like 50-80k on that rank already. Give some solid proof of the 200k dps increase for the same class, gear and unity difference and we will believe you.

    I suppose you are just trolling. 10M is only on burst with sb (or sustained with KR gear). there are so many bm now that you just end without raid and my class outparse bm on long fights. 

    If you play 20H/day you will only get it in 2year while putting 5k euro in the game will get it instantly. meanwhile we'll have awakened legendary stone and much more stuff and game will probably be dead in 2years anyway .... tell me how it is not p2w  are you blind?  

    Bonus that you can only get with paying = pay 2 win. You are blind by thinking it is remotely achievable for anybody but people that trove hard. 

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