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NekoNoKishi

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  1. @Grimoirit is exactly what i said, put token in every dungeon and then increase/rescale prices. and i think merlin is totaly right about leftovers and it would mean we can play without a spreadsheet or calculate anything and then send stuff to main. Tbh, i would even say further, a huge QOL change, maybe a premium one? would be to add a panel in bank shared with whole account, or a panel in inventory that store every bound to account items. Also since we can send ET weapons and every accesories there is no reason to have latest scale, flower, metal as character bound. Thats not stat point and it would be a very good reason to have premium :) basicaly make everybody want to spent 10€/month for the game. but i guess thats another topic and i am derailing lol ...
  2. First, i dont know anybody that enjoy playing their trash reroll or playing with trash reroll in events or spend half of their time switching char / zoning in F8... please name me one...and it is unfair to player that only have one main character ! About the "unlimited" gems farm, you guys realise that you can have as many account as you want to farm powder (and its not so bad LAZY money maker, between 50-100g/hour worth of powder) @YunoGasaiYandere im pretty sure a chinese gold seller would enjoy his 100-200€ monthly salary from such method (ever wondered where the powder supply come from or why F9 price is "broken" ? ) About "let's get all in event" @Grimoir i already covered it by " as long it isn't faster to farm then other dungeons (just a secondary way for lower geared people or at night time when F8 is scarce)" maybe i should write "efficient" instead of "faster" ? But i would add that they could put some token as reward for dynamic in ALL dungeon during event while event dungeon would be the way to go for low gear chars to get entry level mats?? maybe with an increase/rescale in the price of event shop. That would be so awesome actually ! @Merlin DE exactly 11x1 or 1x11 is the same ... and anyway they are now ABLE to put limit on everything account wide so there is no reason to force us to do event on rerolls now (and we can buy account slot with hmcoin so they don't really profit from it) One of the reason that F8 lobby is so empty is because people are on alt doing event. Being able to do it on main only would mean we could actually see what in F8 between 2 event and might jump on something and bring more activity to the game.
  3. Hello, Most of us know and recommand to have multiple alt characters to profit from events. And i think that in many way it isn't enjoyable Since they introduced limit to item from event shop (and i doubt anybody buy anything beside the bound to account items...) there are two thing they could add to make events enjoyable : make the reward in the dynamics and make them repeatable make token bound to account. This would make event more enjoyable since we would see more geared players doing it. I once suggested about BTA token and linxy said they dont want to force us to do event on many alt, but regardless we already doing it to buy BTA items. the only non-bta item are flowers, exp charm and scales and i don't know anybody insane enough to buy them at that price...! Anyway i think it would be nice to farm them that way (exp, flowers, scales) as long it isn't faster to farm then other dungeons (just a secondary way for lower geared people or at night time when F8 is scarce). If this is implemented, it would be nice to add unity stone boxes into the event shop. ps: also please add a mechanics that disable dynamic reward for afk-leechers it becoming more and more painfull. At least give us a report-abuse button ....
  4. They should understand that all of us that support the game already putting as much as we can afford : If we have 100€ to put in the game we put it, no more no less... no amount of frustration will work on most of us... Actually the only reason i am no longer putting money into the game is that i'm not garanteed to evolved my gear. For example, last trove and boxes i did put some money on each and i got ZERO progress on my unity stones !!!! Well this reasoning only work if they still have enough players, otherwise all they have left to do is squeeze as much they can for some arabians princes and millionaires sons and then close the game.
  5. Soul/etc you can farm beforehand since it use existing material, or bought in f5 and every veteran have enough to max day 1 ... Premium bonus effect like russia is out because deemed p2w. Raid Weapon material are never on release but like 2 month after because its considered p2w to offer max weapon on day1. We don't have psyche (yet?) in trove/box because it is considered p2w. We don't have new released accessories in trove because its p2w (well, we get a few orbs but still need to do 100 runz...). We don't have new badges in trove because its p2w ... They removed unlimited experience from F10 (except from trove) because there have been a huge riot about it and its pay2win. Tbh i don't even complain about trove or boxes because we can buy 20 per days with hmcoin and it available to everyone. But this thing we can not even buy with Hmcoin... wtf!? i would gladly spend some of my 200K gold for it... kek... Unity stone bonus take 1 YEAR at the very least and if lucky and require NEW material that can not be purchased in F5 and is time gated and is RNG upgrade. Why on hell is that thing purchasable in F10 with ncoin !? something wrong here and whiteknight make zero sense.
  6. Its probably not just your weapon because every endgame player i play with know that SF are very good with that weapon. Could you post your full gear?
  7. excatly, and then pretend everything is fine and that people that complain about the game are just trolls ....
  8. Hey we have new community management, maybe this one will remember the promise and why we actually joined the game and also why we are all leaving or on the verge on leaving. on another topic they quote the CEO saying how the community management (back when linxy was here) wasn't giving proper feedback. will our "new" community management hear us ?? I can not recommand the game to any friend because i dont know anybody that would want to play a game with zero hope of achievement/competition unless they put thousand of euro every trove...
  9. I amaze me that there are still blind people spouting non-sense like "pay2progress".
  10. Cyan, Not to be rude with you since you are so awesome ... but the devs team are really bad and incompetent for not being able to correct a simple time/timezone problem. At most it should take 1 hour to locate and correct such a simple thing and it been around for 5 weeks and they manage to break it further. If ncsoft ever want to recruit competent dev/dba/project manager you can contact me, id love to live in korea. :p
  11. Pretty sure FTH enabled itself on your computer. That kind of huge fps drop is 99% of the time due to FTH. Please disable it. or use bnsbuddy
  12. You are out of topic. I would have no problem with unity stones, if unity boxes were NOT in trove / boxes (like pysche are not in trove/boxes!) Also i have no problem with putting money into the game and supporting it... as mentionned i put 500-1000 key every trove plus i am premium account since the start. My problem is that they advertised game would not have pay2win elements but there is. It is false advertising.
  13. Im with you op on this one. Maybe they think clan pvp is an additional source lol. But now u also need moonstones for buying msp keys if you want evolved stones. Sure you could sell the extra materials to buy moonstones but thats bad :(
  14. On big number, 2 per 2 seems winner from the data collected but without having data from the game i can not be sure. There is no clear loss/win from doing other methods...but at least i am talking with a huge collaborative sample. But you can try the other method then are harmless. In europe, we have nationnal lottery 2€ for tens of millions and european lottery for hundred millions. Not sure what you are talking about =). I think you dont get my point. I play a game because it was ADVERTISED as not pay2win : That i would never have to face a paywall for anything. But i can not compete in many aspect of the game because i can not PAY for max unity which is clearly permanent stat & power increases that one can not get before the end of the current season hence loosing to pay2win players which get the hmcoin we can not get. I could enjoy a long term upgrade, for example : - i enjoy farming my unity level which nobody can shortcut (yet). I would have liked a weekly limit or daily average instead of a daily limit but thats being picky. - i enjoy farming CM which is on how good you drive (altough there is a bonus if you kill it early) and psyche which is also about farming hard mode dungeon (which dont require max gear). And on this one we dont have psyche in trove (yet?) while KR have it in trove. - i enjoy farming raids altough you can shortcut the soulshield farm with money but you could also buy all the soulshields that drop and by the end of season everybody have it so its ok. - soul, heart, pet, talisman are made with materials you can buy in F5 so if you are long time player you can usually afford and trove/boxes with help newcomers to catch up. At most, troving would put you 1 to 3 month ahead of others so you can catch up before season end. But on unity stones it is years ahead which put you outside of competition for F11 and you loose many k of hmcoins ! Its fine you can enjoy the game knowing you'll never achieve top ranks. But i am not fine with it and many are not fine with it, just look at the reddit i posted there are only negative comments on the fact a pay2win got it day one while we will need years to achieve it.
  15. national lottery is 2€ in here. where do you live for 2€ to be expensive ? You need a streak of luck, 2 per 2 is under 10% chance 8per8 is 45-55% chance. There is no way to garanty 100% chance to get NEXT stage. Let's say u go the 2 per 2 route with optimistic 10% chance (it more like 8%). On average, you need 11 blue stone for a purple (9 fail x (2 stone consumed - 1 blue stone back) + 1 sucess x 2 stone consumed) Then again you need on average 11 purple for a legendary. Thats 121 blue stones total on average. 121 RADIANCE stones x 15 = 1815 radiance stones (i have a headacke and urge to vomit when i see that number). About ascension stone, its pure gamble, you need to luck out a purple box (never seen one in cs/hm merchant and only 1 in daily reward). and then you need to luck out a legendary. I let you calculate the time a free2play player need for that given the fact you can only get about 2 to 3 blue stone a day (hint : years). Please, for god sake stop saying that something can be bought INSTANTLY but takes at least YEARS for free players to be pay 2 progress, it is not. It is the most vicious example of pay2win. What do you need to stop pretending it is achievable? 10 years? 20 years? 50 years? Not to mention, there is no way to garantie the evolution from blue to purple and then legendary. For example, this trove i spent 1210 keys (a mix of ncoin key + hmcoin key) and my unity stone did not evolve a inch , no change, nada, zero. And if i try more my odd did not improve.... all the effort and money ive put did vanish forever. It isn't just tough, it is impossible to get within reasonable time. By the time somebody get close to current max we will already get the next tier of stones ! Thats crazy. Its been over 3 month and you said it yourself , you only have 3 of them. Thats 1 per month and we need 18 of them ... Yes we need more blue, much more blue. They need to at least remove the time limitation on it, either make cs/hm repeatable or chance the currency to something we can farm (for example evolved stone or convert the shitload crystals one can get when farming).
  16. All of them except 1v1 and 3v3 . I was top1 europe in my class on master hong and i can not even get close to top 5 on mao with near full ET gear (i only missing 678 soulshield which i'll get very soon). And im not really free2play since i buy premium and spend 500-1000 key every trove.... This is , this one you can NOT grind, its a paywall + rng + time gated ... i have more chance to win at national loterry then having a streak of luck and get max legendaries
  17. We perfectly know how to upgrade our unity, and i myself have shared spreadsheet with over 2000+ fusions from clan and friends and growing i think you are wrong about the game. Maybe YOU play it for personnal progression but then you miss on F11 rewards which are huge. and those reward are now locked to pay2win players since it is impossible to beat pay2win player because of unity stones locked being a pay2win rng wall. Also for your information if you want to reroll a legendary, you need 2 of them for a rng chance.
  18. I guess ncsoft employees prefer this topic to root while they take profits. This guy spent like 55K keys, he only got 4 extra legendary? and there are many more topic like that on reddit and discord but community managers and ncsoft employees prefer to ignore us. It is the only way to max it. 20-50K keys depending on luck ... and if one dont understand how gamebreaking it is one should go back to school. without trove/boxes it takes at the very least 1year if lucky and probably 2 to 5 years if average luck. i'm still bemused by the sophistry about it being pay 2 progress while it is one heavy example of pay 2 win mechanic.
  19. Thx at least some peoples here are not spreading lies. It is indeed not just a pay wall but a RNG pay wall on top of rng ...
  20. By competition, i talk about F11. You may have missed the fact that it is class-specific and give huge rewards every season. It was possible to compete if you farm enough but now there are peoples with maxed unity stone and the rest. Also, please note that the topic is not about class balance. @ other peoples Soul was called pay2win by majority of the community and is still called pay2win by most even now that you can farm evolved stone in MSP. Unity stone is worse in so many way (rng, rarity, time gated, etc) and people pretend it is not pay2win ? its a joke ? are you guys trolling ? do you guys ever go to reddit or discord ? do you even play the game ? There is NOBODY with it maxxed and its been release about 3 monthes ago ! in 1 year there will still be no free to play players with it (except liars) and you guys pretend it is achievable? They need to remove the rng parts. For example with progression bar. You would break useless stones to make fragments (like you do with gem powder) and improve them with fragments. They need to make orbs and frozen feather farmable. For example, they could replace frozen feather with evolved stones. CS+HM would drop evolved stones which will also help peoples with soul and heart.
  21. What fallacy is that, where did i say i want it now ? Yes i said i could buy max soul and such day 1. But i never said the word now to describe Unity. all i said is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to achieve in a reasonable timeframe. you put word in my mouth i never pronouced. 2 year is the minimum to achieve it. Do you call it possible? It takes 0 days for paid people and a MINIMUM of 2 year for free player to get... how can you call it pay to progress? If you compare soul and unity : Soul => you can spam MSP which will give you materials, money, evolved stones or any other money generating stuff (WC, BT, VT, weeklies, event, dailies, etc) Unity => you can do 1 HM + 11 CS + 1 daily chest + 21 trove key => THE END - GOOD BYE - SAYONARA You still call that pay2progress about something that is impossible to grind hence impossible to obtain regardless of effort you put on it? Are you a troll? next time you are going to call something that takes 10 years to get pay2progress...not wasting more time to answer your trolling.
  22. (i already talked about ping, fps , dps you did not read...) I agree with you definition of Pay2Win : something you can only obtain by spending money. But what you do not understand is that you can NOT grind max unity legendary jewels. You again did not read. It cost 10K key at the very least thats 500.000 gold converted into trove key or 250K gold worth of CS reset + orb (if average luck). Oh forgot to mention you can only buy 10 reset a day !!!! That amount doesn't exist unless on less then 10 person in both NA+EU and they are people that got it through extreme pouring of $$$$ into the game so that exclude them from "free players". Since its timed gated it take at the very least 2 year to farm itand by this time there will be awakened legendary or even worse stuff or game will be dead. This mean it is IMPOSSIBLE for free players to achieve through farming/grind. If you dont understand that something that require an amount of gold or time that free players dont have is IMPOSSIBLE there is a huge flaw in your logic.
  23. You probably undestimate max unity, its not just 200K. First its tons of bonus stats. Secondly its got a permantent belt like effect (+200% AP on skill) and third it got permanent 100 AP bonus. All that is enough to be outparsed easily. Its not just pay2win its overwhelming bonuses that are game breaking. To make you understand, imagine if i tell you that VIP have a second belt slot and 2 more gem ? wouldn't you be angry ? They removed the pay2win aspect of premium that RU have, they removed the ability to max HM easily that we had atr once ... so i still don't understand why they keep something that is timed gated available to power through. Its much more powerfull then both RU premium bonus and instant hm30 together ! I have an uncle that found a 10K€ worth treasure in his garden... does not mean everybody will find one ... You were lucky, i have a spreadsheet is over 2K fuse result and trust me fusing 2 at once is under 10% chance and 8 fuse is slightly under 50% and i start to believe legendary fuse are worse then purple ones .... There is no 3-5M dps difference in this game except for opening. F11 is ranked by CLASS, im totaly destroyed by people of my class with same gear but max unity, how fair is that? wont you call it pay to win ? Everything else can be bought already if you are not a newcomer. You are mistaken about p2fast because contrary to everything else in this game this one is TIME GATED and RNG : 1/ buying trove key/boxes for HM coin is limited to 20 per day 2/ cs & hm are once a day 3/ RNG, you can blow up 50 box and get NOTHING in the end while you will progress for every inch of effort toward any other piece of gear (providing you dont try your luck at PTS). Yes you can trove your way but its on a whole different level then other stuff. As i could max gems/soul with just gold, its impossible for this one. It cost over 250K gold with AVERAGE luck to max it through spamming CS that mean even at my level of farming 250K / 5K weeks = 50 weeks ! i know that people that maxed unity bought well over 10K troves keys ! This is at least 5500 € ! Are you sane saying its not pay2win? do you live in another planet ? Even soul is cheaper, its only about 200 I suppose you are just trolling. 10M is only on burst with sb (or sustained with KR gear). there are so many bm now that you just end without raid and my class outparse bm on long fights. If you play 20H/day you will only get it in 2year while putting 5k euro in the game will get it instantly. meanwhile we'll have awakened legendary stone and much more stuff and game will probably be dead in 2years anyway .... tell me how it is not p2w are you blind? Bonus that you can only get with paying = pay 2 win. You are blind by thinking it is remotely achievable for anybody but people that trove hard.
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