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  1. 14 minutes ago, Thokur said:

    Nö das Spiel kann wie jedes andere Spiel gar nicht gebalanced sein. Denn das würde bedeuten das es ohne Spieler gespielt würde. Die klassen in sich haben durchaus eine balance nur die Spieler halt nicht.

    Dir ist schon klar das es im Kontext allgemein um die Klassenbalace geht? muss man dir das wircklich sagen?

  2. na und? Jede andere klasse ist auch da. Der summoner wird auch verhältnissmäßig viel öfter gespielt als alles andere, deswegen ist klar das er auch weiter oben öfter vertreten ist.

    Ich hab schon jede Klasse rocken sehen, wenn dus nicht kannst bist du einfach zu schlecht.


    Edit: Ich hab übrigens in einem anderen thread im englischen genau dieses thema gehabt. Der summoner ist in den top10 NA kaum vertreten er wird dort auch sehr viel weniger gespielt.

  3. 57 minutes ago, delakhor said:

    naja unbalanced ist es nicht aber es ist wohl wahr das jede klasse counter klassen hat

    das einzigste wo ich mich beschweren würde ist der heal von summoner. grade im tag team dürfte er keine anderen spieler so stark heilen dürfen...

    hatte schon fälle da wurde mit einschreiten ein spieler um 50% seines lebens geheilt...

    Wobei ich bin ja sowieso der meinung das summoner eine klasse ist die vom npc also der katze gespielt wird nicht vom spieler selbst grade so aktionen wie das die katze einen in der luft mit 100% ausweichrate trotzdem manchmal stunnen kann etc.


    Der Beschwörer kann um genau 20%HP heilen während er einschreitet wenn er sofort seine Flower auf den Gegner bekommt und sein Mate auch am Gegner stehen bleibt. Während Destro/BladeDancer/Assassin mit Anicancel auf einem Ziel ohne Tabescape 70-80%Hp an Schaden machen können.


  4. 16 hours ago, yoloo said:

    also pvp mäßig ist hier nix balance grade  . komtm da nochen patch für balance oder kann man es gleich lassen pvp zu machen?


    und jetzt nicht wieder rumflamen es wäre balanct ist es nähmlich 0 :-P


    L2p Issue. Jede klasse ist in den top50. 

    Forum gehen und weinen ist einfacher als selbstkritisch zu sein.

  5. I give this advice now to all newcomer assassins check this channel


    Hes recorded fights @ plat and gives you a basic startegie how to play its really good i like it.


    My advice is. Flower uptime should be very high around 100%!

    Play defensive poke from stealth, restealth x them run to the other side of the arena, if they stop spin sneak attack and combo. Try to pretend their tab escape and q it, if you managed this your golden against pretty much every stun class. If you did bait their trinket  some basic combo him: Spinal -> RB/lB -> F -> Tab -> 4 -> RB/lb ->F -> C -> Tab -> Web -> Stealth -> Spinal ->Rb/lb -> Body swap Stealth -> Poke again

    I repeat flower is very important and defensive play, go in when you can deal some dmg and escape. Against every spin class body swap is golden. Minicombo that cant be trinketed if you only wanna poke -> Spinal -> F -> Tab -> 4 -> F imo is nice. never go meele if they spin. R bomb + X for poisen poke. Imo most of the time youll win with timer.

  6. 5 hours ago, Hungri4animePusi said:

    yeah i guess i expected too much from so called strategic action pvp , but even this  game  can be fair if adjusted correctly, by that i mean  both classes having equal chance of winning not one sided cc exploit fest

    I see every class in the top 50. So every players should be able to reach that high. The problem is, everyone thinks "iam good i should be there in top10! i loose because my class is week".

  7. 4 hours ago, Kaiservadin said:

    PVP is broken had a high level stun me 95% of the time making me unable to fight back , might want to revoke pvp rewards till you balance out PVP.

    PS: Level 33 vs 45(?)

    every class is present in the top 50, atlot of summoners up there but basically you can reach high rating with any class.

    What people dont understand not everyone can be in the top100 ofc only the 100 players who unlock the most potential with the class.

  8. 0.8sec zeitfenster hat der reversel skill aber z.b. das chi saugen auf der 4 vom BD kann man nicht unterbechen, sein blade was aus dem rücken kommt beispielsweiße schon genau dann wenn man die animation des skills sieht.

  9. 7 minutes ago, MelodyOfWings said:

    those do reward zen beans but not very efficently


    So what? It takes a whole week or maybe two then with no effort? WoW :<

    There is a way to get it, with no effort only time invest. Takes maybe week but really low game time. If you would decide to win a few matches in addition it comes even faster..

    That skill is by no means a real requierment for pve so if you dont even want to invest time, why dont you just give up on that one skill?

  10. 1 minute ago, MelodyOfWings said:

    you can only obtain it from 5000 zen beans... you only gain about 7 zen beans for a loss at bronze rank, at about 4-5 minutes a match... thats about 48 hours of pvp for losses to obtain... and for someone who really has no interest in pvp, thats a lot of wasted time.

    there are daylies where you only have to participate, not to win

  11. 30 minutes ago, MelodyOfWings said:

    The game fails to reward casual players.... and 70% of players are casual players... they are alienating 70% of their players.


    This is just not true. Its just you who totally refuse to do even the slightest bit of pvp. Do your *cricket* pvp daylies together with your pve stuff you gain ENOUGH soulstones to upgrade your gear, i just reached 1700 rating with a lvl 40 assassin. I mean its not hard i did about 50 pvp matches you do your 6 daylie matches a day and your reach that amoutn kinda qickly i gained 2k zenbeans from that. thats a 30ss pouch. I dont know how much upgrading costs because i never got to the point where they are needed. But why is so hard to just do you few pvp daylies? you have to win only 1. Afk the rest if its so disgusting.  As i already said pve is enough rewarding, patchchild did a good job list more things.


    What is a casual for you? Someone who plays like 5 hours a week? Because yea thats a casual and its hard for the game to reward low playtime how should that work? If you play on a daylie base or more than 20 hours a week your a regular player and not casual. The word casual appeard in the world of warcraft community and it descriped a bunch of players who dont like to invest "effort" while they are playing BUT STILL want as much rewards as people who actually put effort in their playtime.


    i say it again no one forces you to do anything. You can just play what you like. You dont need the royal bean you can get all soulstones trough pve, its easier but takes longer. You cant expect the game to put all desireable rewards as a pve reward.

  12. 1 minute ago, Geraton said:


    Im obviously missing some detail, because I cannot see any changes of doom n bloom or taunt in these notes. The changes provided from the link have been applied in this Rising waters content already :x

    its this patch those nerfes werent in the notes but its this patch

  13. 2 minutes ago, MelodyOfWings said:

    No... i want PVE=PVP... both sides need to be rewarding... Not 1 more than the other... THATS CALLED BALANCED... ya know... the thing that makes games fun.

    PvE  bringing other sorts of rewards. Less soulstones but you can get costumes, baguas, weapons to upgrade your stuff. The only stuff you get from pvp is soulstones which right now are bringing alot of money, but this will change as the demand will fall off later on when most people did theire upgrading.

    And as you can see there is another upgrade for pve incoming mushin tower 8 and new dungeon.

  14. 7 minutes ago, Geraton said:

    Well, depends on the perspective how you look at it :D I cant imagine warlock being that nerfed it will come out as weak as BM is at the moment compared to others :D (sorry BMs, Im just trying to explain how hard times you got there) :x

    The warlock was nerfed in the same patch as the summoners taunt and doom n bloom nerf, basically the last patch here are the notes.



  15. 6 minutes ago, MelodyOfWings said:

    Will you stop talking like PVE is some god forsaken evil thing that is so difficult and evil thing that should never be added... Everyone keeps saying this game is about pvp... which is an absolute lie... if it was about pvp, it would be like LoL or Dota or any number of the 100s of FPS games... This game has a very strong PVE gameplay and following, therefor its not built around pvp. You are the Selfish Elietist who wants only the pvpers to be rewarded for their work... well you're wrong, and you need to leave this thread because you are completely disregarding the point to the thread. Essentially, you are making my point for me... That pvp is the only thing that is being rewarded... which should not be the case.

    I will leave the thread when i decide to.

    You talking about pvp is something evil!

    Lol and dota are MOBAs; This is an MMORPG which is more about pvp then pve. Yea it has pve gameplay, but it basically has really low pve content. Its trivial. When raids will be invented it will be more rewarding. And i said it often enough. Why is pve not rewarding to you? Only because you can get more in pvp? So basically you want pve > pvp? And call me selfish elitist?

    Your just ignore all the rewards i listed in pve and you still say its not rewarding enough lol

  16. 1 minute ago, Geraton said:

    I heard there are some differences between NA and EU servers, one of them might be they complain less and practice more :D :D sorry for being ironic but thats what the ranking you put there proves :x 


    maybe from official site http://www.bladeandsoul.com/en/news/unchained-arrives-march-2/ :o ;)

    Wow great news :)

    glad to hear it, never tought they would update so rapidley

  17. 3 minutes ago, Kure said:

    Done. Findings:



    3.LBM (or is that BD?)









    Am I looking at the wrong thing?


    Is this NA? eu looks way different.


    2 minutes ago, Geraton said:

    Ok guys, a tiny reminder for all you...do not forget in 2 weeks theres new intruder incoming and I presume the hate is gonna be turned to him :D I dont even need to speak in riddles, cause we all know that damn Warlock is even more screwed than summoner :x So lets enjoy how even so much hated summoners gonna get pissed by this "darklord"

    They nerfed warlock hard already, where is the official information about the 2weeks?

  18. 7 minutes ago, MelodyOfWings said:

    Simply put, the developers should not be requiring pvp to obtain ANYTHING.... its unfair to the pvers... PVP is significantly more difficult than pve.... PVE become the social side of the game... and PVP becomes the Competitive side... You dont like PVE... YOU leave the game... PVE is a major aspect of this game, That is never going to change, Players cannot advance without PVE as you put it... So why wouldn't they reward PVErs? You sound like a selfish child who wants to keep all the rewards to the elitist pvpers... That attitude is going to ruin this game, Both sides need to be rewarding, NOT EVERYTHING is pvp.

    Yea the whole world is unfair. I have to do pve too which i dont like.

    I should leave when i dont like pve? Dude the same goes for you, if you dont like pvp leave the game.

    Pvp is the major aspect of this game thats never going to change.

    You cannot advance without pvp as we cannot advance without pve.

    PvErs wont be more rewarded because this game is more about pvp if you dont like it, yea you said it yourself LEAVE :D

    Your the guy who sound like a selfish child who wants everything without playing the whole game.

    Mr elite pve'ist

    You get everything by playing the whole game take it or leave it, it wont change anyway you can cry as much as you wont!

    There is enough reward in pve.

  19. 7 minutes ago, Kure said:

    Anyhow... as an outsider looking in, it seems that summoner is one of those classes that is easier to grasp the basics of but harder to master.


    Ok i cant hear that arguement anymore. Press F11 ingame and check how many summoner are in top10. And then tell me again its because of the low skillbase.

    Everyone who playes around 2k rating knows their class especially if you get there with the harder ones. Still there are more summoners than any other class like 5 summoners are there in top10 and the whoe upper rank is croweded with those little crickets.

  20. 3 minutes ago, MelodyOfWings said:

    I honestly cant tell if that is sarcasm... Leveling up in MMOs is pretty general for MMOs.. and seeing as you CAN level up from pvp alone... i dont see how having to pve to level up is a valid argument.

    I already did respond to that. I have to pvp against 45s than thats just as unenjoyable as pveing

    Wait i just recognized i cant get weapons from pvp to upgrade my gear for openworld pvp? An whats with the stones i could get from blackwyrm and the way better baguas from pve for open pvp so unfair !

    Oh and only because you see it as pretty general i have to enjoy it? i have to go trough it while i hate it but accept it and you are right with crying over 5k zen beans lol bro.